Omega IV & Independence Day

Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by Maurice, Jul 4, 2021.

  1. Scott Kellogg

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    Not to quibble, but "Miri" was about a "Life Prolongation" plan gone wrong, not bio-warfare.
     
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    I always thought TOS should have done a parallel planet episode with Disco music devotees versus Heavy Metal fanatics.
     
  3. Ryan Thomas Riddle

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    Ah yes. Quite right. I misremembered.
     
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    Strangely, my memory is nudging me about a Star Trek Parody on a planet of Heavy Metal fanatics... can't place it though...

    (Edit: Ah! "Galaxina"... Terrible film.
    I mean really Really Terrible.
    The Spock parody had his pointed ears on upside down.)
     
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  5. The Old Mixer

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    Planet of the Apes premiered on February 8, 1968...a month before "The Omega Glory" aired.
     
  6. TREK_GOD_1

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    Ssuuuree, you darn Kohm! ;)

    About the episode: one thing I really loved about the episode was starting with a horrific discovery aboard the Exeter, and remained grim, often brutal almost until the end. Woodward's Tracey was an amazing villain, every bit as cunning and physically capable as Kirk. Woodward and Shatner really played off of each other perfectly, just as effective a hero / villain dynamic as Kirk vs Kor, Khan or Kang. TOS painted a distinct picture very different than the perfect future/people Roddenberry would sell as his "original intent" for TOS on the 1970s convention circuit. Not only is TOS' universe incredibly dangerous (particularly for Starfleet officers), but Starfleet is not populated by flawless, looking-down-on-others-from-a-refined-perch types that would find its way other versions of the franchise.

    Oh, and Shatner gave a more passionate, believable reason for / interpretation of the "holy words" than most politicians I've heard attempt the same.
     
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    Yes, it was Shatner's Glory, a rousing rendition of "We the People ...". And it was served with a side of ham and cheese.

    Shatner's dramatic recitation was awesome, especially since it was coming from a Canadian-born actor, a Quebecois no less.
     
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    Bluntly, it seems that it was only made because at the end of season two, with no guarantee of a third season, and no money to commission new scripts, editing existing scripts that were in the 'no good' cupboard was the only option.
     
  9. Maurice

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    I never saw any such indication that was the case. I think it's more likely Gene wanted the bucks for getting his script on the air in the event the show wasn't picked up for a 3rd season, same as he rammed his unsold Assignment: Earth pilot into the show.
     
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    According to TMOST, "The Omega Glory" was one of three scripts submitted to NBC in June of 1965 for the second Star Trek pilot. The others were "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and "Mudd's Women."
     
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  11. Maurice

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    Yep. I've read the pilot version(s), featuring Captain York Kirk and a very odd acting Spock.



    Oh, and when the Enterprise enters orbit of the planet the Exeter nearly collides with it. "Standard" orbits indeed.
     
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    I rewatched the episode tonight as a part of the #AllStarTrek hashtag for the H&I network, and I was enjoying it for most of the first three acts. When the episode is about a Starship Captain breaking the Prime Directive and interfering with the internal affairs of a planet, it's an interesting episode. But as soon as that American flag comes in towards the end, the train to Crazy Town has left the station.

    So it's an episode that I think would be a lot better regarded if it had a decent ending. It's actually very nicely shot.
     
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  13. Joanna McCoy-Kirk

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    This summary is so funny (but true).:lol:
     
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  14. Maurice

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    Ugh. I despise this kind of retconning.

    We have copies of the Constitution made centuries after the original on acid-free paper, etc. The one they had needn't have been the original.
     
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    Or punk, which was a reaction to disco (and a backlash-related one... :devil:)

    It feels like something written in the 1950s and hasn't dated well because it's hard to suspend disbelief despite TOS's own claim of parallel development worlds (combined with the usual response of astonishment every time they come to a planet that is similar to Earth's past... again.)

    Up to that point, the story is rather first rate. The mystery illness that kills people in that horrific fashion, Cap'n Tracy (with Morgan Woodward stealing the show), and so on.

    I think the heart is near the right place, especially for 1960s standards, but people complain about "NuTrek" being heavyhanded -- TOS was being heavyhanded first and arguably not realizing it; one day I'll check out the nonfiction books on the show's making of and see what the scoop was on that story's production...
     
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  16. Mr. Laser Beam

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    So without any prior contact with Earth, how would YOU explain those documents turning up, independently, on an alien world? It's statistically impossible.

    I mean, it'd be like "All Along The Watchtower" being written thousands of centuries ago, then being written AGAIN (by Bob Dylan) on present day Earth. Oh, wait...
     
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  18. Ryan Thomas Riddle

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    Star Trek already had an explanation built into the show: Hodgekin's Law of Parallel Planetary Development.
     
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  20. Maurice

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    Just as impossible as humans being perfectly duplicated on various worlds ("Preservers" aside), everyone speaking the same language on different planets, etc. :)

    Well, it was at least an attempt to rationalize it...even if improbable AF.
     
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