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Old-Timers Thread (kids not allowed!)

SRFX said:
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Whenever I want to feel like a child again, I will pop in an episode of STAR TREK, like Balance of Terror or the Doomsday Machine, and it's like a warm, secure, blanket. It's the only way I will experience that childlike wonder about space and adventure ever again, and only the original series, the first movie and very very early TNG make me feel that way (and early TNG is CRAP).

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Chronologically you may be young, but i do believe you are an old soul. Your post was beautiful and even though i am twice your age what you said could have come from my heart as well. {{{{im hugging you!!!}}}
 
Yeoman Randi said:
SRFX said:
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Whenever I want to feel like a child again, I will pop in an episode of STAR TREK, like Balance of Terror or the Doomsday Machine, and it's like a warm, secure, blanket. It's the only way I will experience that childlike wonder about space and adventure ever again, and only the original series, the first movie and very very early TNG make me feel that way (and early TNG is CRAP).

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Chronologically you may be young, but i do believe you are an old soul. Your post was beautiful and even though i am twice your age what you said could have come from my heart as well. {{{{im hugging you!!!}}}
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Indeed. I've long said that the great thing about TOS was that, when I was a kid, it made me feel like an adult and now that I'm an adult, it makes me feel like a kid.
 
SRFX said:
When you're 3 years old, it doesn't matter if a show is 20 years old or 2 years old - if it's good it's GOOD. And back then, STAR TREK was the BEST.
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That's how I felt watching "Forbidden Planet" for the first time, well after my exposure to Trek in '66!:techman:

Good is good.;)
 
Yeah, whatever. I'm probably as old as anyone here - twelve years old when I watched "The Man Trap" on NBC - and I find the draw-the-wagons-in-a-circle attitude of some "old-timers" really tiresome. 'Specially since most of you are kids. :lol:
 
Dennis said:
I find the draw-the-wagons-in-a-circle attitude of some "old-timers" really tiresome.
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Dennis, DUDE, it's all in fun. I started this thread; have I chided any of the 20-somethings for posting?
It's all good in the 23rd & 24th Centuries, my man.;)
 
While I like nuTrek*, I miss when we were more cohesive.

That's not counting the more Kirk/Spock slash! fans, Kirk is better than Spock or Scotty fans, 1st season is better than third season fans....well, maybe not quite so cohesive.

*anything after the original Star Trek
 
Interesting how these youngsters want to join us in our reminiscence of the NBC years. In my case, I saw most of the third season at age 12 ("Spock's Brain" was the first episode I ever saw, the season premiere in September 1968) and only later learned how much better-scripted the earlier seasons were. By then I had gotten my whole family to watch the reruns at dinnertime, 6 pm weekdays.

I could sense that fans of the show in the mid-'70s (those of us who would attend the occasional New York City convention while in college, and would gather in university student center TV rooms and say aloud "I see him!""There he is!""It's the captain!" along with the bridge crew in "The Tholian Web") wanted to continue fandom for its own sake. No one really believed there would be a revival of the series on network TV, and no one envisioned any alternative until rumors of Paramount concocting a new version of the show began to spread - a new Star Trek to be the centerpiece of a new ad-hoc network much like the UPN of 10 years later.

That series, if produced, perhaps would have ended the whole phenomenon within a few years: Fans would have gotten something close to the additional seasons they were cheated of in '69 (albeit with Xon instead of Spock) and few others would have cared. So for good or ill, I suppose we can thank Star Wars (none of this "A New Hope" nonsense, please!) for causing Paramount to shift gears and turn the pilot for the new series into TMP, which led in turn to the true sparkplug of the Trek revival: The Wrath of Khan. In a way it's all been downhill from there, "there" being the audience for the first-night showings in May 1982.
 
But I think it's unfair to assume that just because you're young, means you are instantly dismissive or unappreciative of the old stuff!
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Yeah, the stereotypes do get obnoxious, but you can't really blame the old-timers. The majority of us young 'uns (myself definitely not included) think that the quality of any movie/tv show is determined by how up-to-date the action and FX are. Throw in a formulaic but almost passable plot and you've got a masterpiece. I gotta say, I'm truly jealous of the oldies. They had the chance to grow up during a breakthrough in the film industry. You had the early/mid 60's B&W masterpieces like Dr. Strangelove that quickly transitioned into early 70's icons such as The Godfather.

But anyway, staying on topic, why do I seem to be the only one that got hooked on Trek AFTER I hit puberty? I mean, it just makes me feel like an idiot, for real. All of you guys were getting into this as little kiddies while I was drawn in by a) the thought-provoking scientific concepts such as faster-than-light-speed technology and mirror universes (and other things I wouldn't have understood when I was 8), b) Gene Roddenberry's optimistic vision of the future, and being as cynical and pessimistic as I am about humanity, it is one of the few things that gives me hope and a goal to strive for (and other things I wouldn't have understood when I was 8) c) the smokin' hot babes! (and other things I wouldn't---okay, that one's up for grabs. I was a horny little bastard:devil:.)
 
I'm just dropping in to say "Hi" because I just missed TOS' original run. I started watching regularly in the fall of 1970 at the age of 11. When I discovered TOS it was like finding a doorway into an incredible universe I couldn't have imagined before.

T'Bonz said:
While I like nuTrek*, I miss when we were more cohesive.
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This past weekend I was perusing my copies of The Best Of Trek books and was instantly transported back to the '70s and '80s by some of the articles. Lots of discussions on various subjects and not a hint of dissent and division that would really rear its head with the arrival if TNG and get only more intense with each nw incarnation.

When I look at TOS as an adult I do notice more things I overlooked when younger, things that can be fairly criticized, but I also see and appreciate good things I missed because of youth. Whenever I look at TOS I'm always more impressed by how much they got right than by what they fumbled.
 
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I was 10 when Star Trek came on in 1966, and although i loved the sci-fi aspect, it was always the relationship between the characters (and a heavy duty crush on Shatner) that drew me in and hooked me. I really loved the relationship between the "big three".

What drew me to Next Gen was not so much the relationships (i came to appreciate those in later seasons), but the way they fleshed out the cultures more than in TOS.

None of this is here nor there.....just sayin.
 
gottacook said:
those of us who would attend the occasional New York City convention while in college,
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I was at the second ever Trek convention ('76, if memory serves), and nearly every one after that. Hey- chances are we SAW each other!! I was always showing my super-8 movies at the film festivals & stuff.:techman:
 
Naw, the one I attended with college friends was in January 1975 at the Americana Hotel in Manhattan, and I'm sure that it wasn't the first ever held. There were 35-mm prints of such episodes as "Mirror, Mirror," also panels including Harlan Ellison (shoulder-length hair and a pipe) and other notables. I met James Doohan, who quite surprised me with his utter lack of any accent whatever. Somewhere I still have the full-color program book and an unused "Phaser Equipped/Warp Drive Powered" bumper sticker...
 
gottacook said:
Naw, the one I attended with college friends was in January 1975 at the Americana Hotel in Manhattan, and I'm sure that it wasn't the first ever held.
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My error, the first was in '72!!!:eek:
Well, I don't know where I got that idea, but anyway we missed meeting by 12 moons.:lol:

My favourite bumper sticker from that Con: "Don't Honk: I Can Only Do Warp 2!":guffaw:
 
I love going to conventions, and seeing mom and pop dressed up, with little Johnny and Sue also dressed up and having fun. At the talks, the kids will get up and bravely ask the actors questions. Only in Sci Fi do you get that pass it on feel, and the whole family having a ball together.
 
I remember Trek from 1973 onward, watching it at my aunt's house; I still get the chills when Rojan crushes to dust the remains of the yeoman in "By Any Other Name"!
 
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