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Old ladies paying with personal checks...

As someone who has had to cancel two debit cards this year thanks to Target and The Home Depot, paper checks aren't sounding so bad right now.

BINGO!

I'm not the only one. I've had to replace my bank card twice in the last month due to hacking and getting my account number stolen. Paper is sounding better and better every friggin' time..

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^ I'm sure cancelling cards is a hassle, but any decent bank will make it as small of one as possible.

And any places you used that debit card at, could have snuck off with your check and done who knows what. Your account number is on it, of course.

Besides, if this bothers you so much, just use a credit card. Anything comes up, dispute the charge. Good luck trying that with forged or altered (or simply bank-fucked-up - I had that happen once) checks.

Plus, when they run a check through that machine, to verify it, there might be a chance that info can be hacked.
 
I occasionally pay people like solicitors by dropping a cheque in, I'd never pay by cheque in a shop though.

I don't think anybody in the UK would allow you to anymore anyway. We all have chip & pin now, I've not seen anybody pay by cheque in 10 years or more.

Shops, I'd agree.

However for parking permits, our local council (UK) won't accept anything else. I'd like to pay by card, but they don't have the facility for that. They also won't take direct debit in this particular case as they want you to fill out a form every time.

For the last ten or so years, I've used one personal cheque a year and it's always been for this.


Work is a different matter. We still use them there for one-off payments fairly regularly.
 
I don't see the problem paying with checks.

I am the primary caregiver for my grandmother. She is in her late 80s, and is legally blind (macular degeneration, she has 7% vision). We lost my grandfather almost a year ago - he was murdered, and we are still waiting for that trial to start ... so much for swift justice! - and with him gone, I now take care of all bills, shopping, etc., that she needs.

She has never liked to keep large amounts of cash (as in, more than one hundred dollars) in the home, insisting on keeping it at the bank. She will not use a credit or debit card, because, well she can't see them.

When we go to the grocery store (or any store for that matter), I've already written out the check, the only thing left is the amount and signiture. It speeds things up considerably.

I pay all of her bills by check, because that's what she wants, and one does not argue with ones' grandmother.

Another thought I had while reading this is ... There seem to be an awful lot of cash-advance places. These are places you can go in, write a check, and get an advance against your upcoming paycheck. I hear about them all the time, and it makes me wonder just how large their lobby is. We may not see the end of checks in this country simply because it would put that industry out of business.
 
If US banks and retailers want to encourage debit card use they should get with the times, spend some money and implement Chip+Pin/EMV standards.

Unfortunately this is probably something that will have to be legally mandated in order to take hold. I certainly know my employer wouldn't spend money to upgrade to this system unless he absolutely had to.

It IS mandated, isn't it? I thought we were required to switch to the chip-and-whatever system by 2015 or so. If not, we should be!

And on an unrelated matter, I really wish my favorite NYC deli (Katz's) would take credit cards. They're the only reason I have to carry any cash in New York, and it kind of pisses me off... #firstworldproblems :lol:
 
As someone who has had to cancel two debit cards this year thanks to Target and The Home Depot, paper checks aren't sounding so bad right now.

BINGO!

I'm not the only one. I've had to replace my bank card twice in the last month due to hacking and getting my account number stolen. Paper is sounding better and better every friggin' time..

Q2

But isn't that in part due to the USA seemingly behind the times when it comes to card technology? I was on holiday recently in the USA and most if not all of the time I used a card as means of payment they didn't even check to see if the signature matched. Sure in the UK we have a few Chip N Sign cards but the cashier is still trained to check the signature.
 
If US banks and retailers want to encourage debit card use they should get with the times, spend some money and implement Chip+Pin/EMV standards.

Unfortunately this is probably something that will have to be legally mandated in order to take hold. I certainly know my employer wouldn't spend money to upgrade to this system unless he absolutely had to.

It IS mandated, isn't it? I thought we were required to switch to the chip-and-whatever system by 2015 or so. If not, we should be!
I certainly haven't heard anything about it.

And on an unrelated matter, I really wish my favorite NYC deli (Katz's) would take credit cards. They're the only reason I have to carry any cash in New York, and it kind of pisses me off... #firstworldproblems :lol:

It's funny. I talk about checks being out-dated, but I am definitely a cash person. Granted, most of my income is from bartending, so I take cash tips home at the end of the night. I use cash to pay for pretty much everything except my online bills.
 
I'm sure paper checks will still be with us for some time to come. And I don't see cash becoming obsolete anytime soon either. I mean, what about paying for illegal drugs? And hookers?
 
I use both cash and credit cards when I'm shopping in stores, and both checks and online transfers when paying my bills. However, my life insurance company only takes checks, and one of my utilities uses a separate online bill pay service that charges me an extra $2.75 "convenience fee" for using it (so by snail mail check it will be for them).
 
Credit cards are great if you don't need them - I put all my bills via my credit card and pay instantly to avoid interest charges but get hotel points - usually get about a week's worth of free rooms a year.
 
As someone who has had to cancel two debit cards this year thanks to Target and The Home Depot, paper checks aren't sounding so bad right now.

BINGO!

I'm not the only one. I've had to replace my bank card twice in the last month due to hacking and getting my account number stolen. Paper is sounding better and better every friggin' time..

Q2

Sorry, but some of these problems are self-inflicted. Don't use your ATM/debit card anywhere other than an ATM. Bad plan. You get that stolen, your money is GONE, and then you get to argue with the bank to try and get it back.

When you use a credit card instead, it's "imaginary" money until the end of the billing period, so easy to get the fake transaction frozen and removed, or you just don't pay it while you sort it out.

One leaves you with paperwork to fill out, one leaves you with an empty bank account. No matter what nonsense Ramsey spouts, plenty of good things about credit cards.

Replacing one because of fraud is annoying, but hardly a big impact. Usually my biggest problem is trying to go through the bill and figure out everywhere that had automatic payments so that I can move them all to a new account. If I were smarter, I'd probably move all recurring payments to a credit card I NEVER buy anything online or at a store with, to reduce even that pain in the ass some more...
 
The only check I write anymore is for the rent. Everything else is debit card, credit card, or cash. Ordered half as many checks this month than I had been getting for the last 40 years.
 
Sure in the UK we have a few Chip N Sign cards but the cashier is still trained to check the signature.

Most people don't even sign the backs of their cards anymore. People really just don't seem to care.

The buisness' should care as they could be held liable for any losses.

Usually, if the transaction is small enough, they decide it's not worth it to care. Its only for transactions over a certain amount that they require a signature.
 
Whenever I go shopping during the daytime, I inevitably get stuck behind an old lady buying her groceries by writing a check. I feel like grocery stores are one of the few businesses left that even accept personal checks anymore.

When will it stop?


My mom says she is sorry.
 
^^ Local mom & pop convenience store needs a signature on the receipt for charge/debit card amounts over $25. They don't have a fancy swipe box with stylus for electric signature.
 
I keep track of my bank balance and pay a lot of my bills online, but I find that paper checks still have their uses. A couple of my doctors don't yet have their offices set up to take online payment or debit cards. And because paper checks usually take two or three days to clear, I can use them to advance myself cash when I'm a bit short.

Mine have pictures of Betty Boop.

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Oh, and never order your checks from the bank. Banks have at least a 200% markup on check orders. I get mine direct from the check printing company..

:techman: That's the only way to go. Cost aside, you will find a much greater diversity of themes, designs, colors, etc. with some of these companies.



I've had the same account for 22 years and never had a single issue with paper checks.

I hear you brother!!! Well over 35 years for me at this point and smooth sailing all the way. :)
 
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