Okay.... If Mudd shows up in a future film with the new cast...
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He would be at least 10 years younger, and wanted criminals do occasionally alter their appearances.
I would love the idea of Harry Mudd showing up! Next to the original cast, he is almost as iconic as Kahn.
By the by, who would you cast as Mudd and maybe even Stella?
Seconded.
hellsgate
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Truthfully, I'd make him a "her". Athletic, intelligent, eloquently spoken and nowhere near as sexual as the original. Aloof and all business. Struggling to keep a family employed in light of the Jem Hadar / Dominion recently and ahead of the competition whom are prepared to torpedo her ass right out of orbit at the first opportunity, the second her ship drops shields to beam aboard a salvage team and/or artifacts of interest.
(Think of Vash from TNG. I'd bring her back.)
Lonely, as she ~is~ the C.O. of her operation, but otherwise fulfilled. Has nieces and nephews. Basically a female Benjamin Sisko. You almost feel for her and care about her, but she's just a sliver too "professionally detached". Like everybody else, she's independant but threatens the status quo of the other women around her, resulting in rubbing people the wrong way.
(Think of Vash from TNG. I'd bring her back.)
Lonely, as she ~is~ the C.O. of her operation, but otherwise fulfilled. Has nieces and nephews. Basically a female Benjamin Sisko. You almost feel for her and care about her, but she's just a sliver too "professionally detached". Like everybody else, she's independant but threatens the status quo of the other women around her, resulting in rubbing people the wrong way.
Nowhere Man
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I ca agree with having Mudd and having Seth Rogan , but not having him as the main Gillian , but a helper or a guywho introduces us to the main villian Kirk's Lex Luther and have him bring about a Zod like character , but not Khan
hellsgate
Commodore
^^ JB2005: No, not Vash herself, but an icy/feminine captain that knows how to dress to titilate without necessarily putting-out. She still has to answer to Starfleet's Transport Command.
Especially if she violates a race's planetary airspace without going through proper channels; caught red-handed with stolen artifacts; or, smuggling underage kids to each others' homeworld for an illicit sexual / romantic rendezvous behind their parents' back. Or, docking/operating without paid-up licences at a Starfleet/Federation installation. If she's caught transporting banned subspace/biogenic weapons or caught harbouring anyone with a warrant out for their arrest or caught assisting "Human Trafficking".
Especially if she violates a race's planetary airspace without going through proper channels; caught red-handed with stolen artifacts; or, smuggling underage kids to each others' homeworld for an illicit sexual / romantic rendezvous behind their parents' back. Or, docking/operating without paid-up licences at a Starfleet/Federation installation. If she's caught transporting banned subspace/biogenic weapons or caught harbouring anyone with a warrant out for their arrest or caught assisting "Human Trafficking".
Well, I don't think anyone would want him used as the main villian. IMO, he should be used more like Robbie Coltrane's character in GoldenEye.
Nowhere Man
Commodore
Been a looooong time since I watched Goldeneye, Robbie Coltrane?
I want to see Philip Seymour Hoffman. Depends on whether you want to go funny or creepy, though. Honestly, I always found Mudd to fall on the creepy side--he went from trafficking women to enslaving robots. The dude was a total chode.
Eh, I'm not entirely sure how I feel about a character like Mudd returning, particularly for a feature film. I was skeptical when Lursa and B'Etor returned for Generations, and I'm skeptical now. For me, it would be like if there were to be a Halo game entirely about Sergeant Johnson. He just isn't big enough a character to warrant more than a cameo, much less an important role in the storyline.
Or Quark.
Or, to satisfy the no "rebooted TOS characters" argument and acknowledge old continuity, they could introduce a new criminal character, he and Kirk could have and Odo/Quark style "you're busted" type of scene, and then said crook could say "Mudd set me up."
Seth Rogen as Mudd is a good idea though, and so is an Orion Syndicate chieftain as bad guy who could cause Enterprise trouble for more than one movie.
Haha Seth Rogan would be a perfect Mudd!!!
For my money, I'd use that kind of characterization for the leader of the Orion Syndicate. She would have the title of Matriarch, and would be older and more sophisticated than most Orion women we've seen thus far; still attractive but most of that would come from the confident, sophisticated manner in which she carries herself (maybe Abrams could hire one of the Derevko sisters from Alias). Seeing how the Syndicate's matriarchal status is something of a secret, and organized crime very male dominated anyway, she would operate mainly behind the scenes, with her male consigliere serving as an intermediary.
That's how I would like to see Mudd played out and that is an excellent comparison. I think adding Mudd could be a good move, but, yes, not as the main villain. He wouldn't work, mostly because the character isn't a villain's villain.
I'd almost compare him to Q. He's not "evil", but more of a pain in the ass.
He played Zukovsky, the Russian gangster who helped Bond connect with Janus and later showed up in The World Is Not Enough.
How is Mudd not evil? He trafficks in women and enslaves intelligent robots. Were we watching the same show?
Yeah, but he's overall closer to Quark (or his more ethically challenged cousin Gayla) than he is to, say, the pah-wraiths.
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