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"Ok, what have you got for me this time?"

The TARDIS could very likely be a creature that is grown, then adapted technologically to fit it's purpose.
That doesn't seem very nice.

Nor do the Timelords in general :lol:

The riding horses analogy isn't that bad... but what if it was a little more than that? Say a TARDIS was grown into a mindless, futile organism that needed to be technologically advanced to meet it's potential.

Without the upgrades, it's just a 'thing' with no purpose or mind of it's own.
 
I guess what I'm thinking is that maybe in order to time travel you need a living organism, you might bolt machinery onto it but the machinery is useless without the lifeform.

This has already been touched upon in the Dr. Who universe. In Warriors Gate the ship that was stuck in E-Space with the TARDIS traveled through timelines. But, it was only able to do so with a member of the Tharil race hooked into it as a navigator. They even tried to hook Romana to it because she was "time sensitive."

You can look at the TARDIS as an advanced form of that type of ship.

Somehow the Timelords figured out a way to grow a living, time sensitive organism that could incorporate technology into itself as it grows. Perhaps it started as a life form similar to a tree, but once a timelord computer was absorbed into it's being somehow, it became living and thinking.

Sometimes it's better not to try and think this shit through too much.
 
We can build computers using vacuum tubes, and in fact we did it that way years back. But the laptop on my desk suggests there is a better way.
Holy shit, your laptop magically grew?!

If it's a MacBook Pro, probably. :p Grown perfectly, nurtured and fed well, all from a pedigree breed of technology parts. ;)

Seriously now though, i like the idea of a growing Tardis. However, maybe its only part of it that is grown, then blended and installed into the main frame or some bollocks like that.

Who cares, hell, maybe some are grown and nurtured and some are beautifully hand built by rival Tardis companies on Gallifrey :techman:. Like the difference between Aston Martin and some mass producing company like Smart or Hyundai. :lol:
 
On the contrary, he didn't have a problem with the treatment of the Ood until he found out the Ood had a problem with it. At the black hole base, the Doctor blithely went along with the story that the Ood liked being ordered around and didn't know what to do with themselves otherwise, even though, if I remember right, he himself later acknowledged this notion was ridiculously implausible.
 
On the contrary, he didn't have a problem with the treatment of the Ood until he found out the Ood had a problem with it. At the black hole base, the Doctor blithely went along with the story that the Ood liked being ordered around and didn't know what to do with themselves otherwise, even though, if I remember right, he himself later acknowledged this notion was ridiculously implausible.

I don't think he really thought much about it until Donna showed up and asked if there were "wild" Ood. The Ood in "The Impossible Planet" were rather happy with their lives.
 
On the contrary, he didn't have a problem with the treatment of the Ood until he found out the Ood had a problem with it. At the black hole base, the Doctor blithely went along with the story that the Ood liked being ordered around and didn't know what to do with themselves otherwise, even though, if I remember right, he himself later acknowledged this notion was ridiculously implausible.

I don't think he really thought much about it until Donna showed up and asked if there were "wild" Ood. The Ood in "The Impossible Planet" were rather happy with their lives.

... no, the Ood in "The Impossible Planet" were brain-damaged.
 
What I mean is that there was nothing obvious in that episode to tell us (or the Doctor) that the Ood didn't actually want to be servants. Aside from the obvious interference from Satan, they were pretty content.
 
Which was my point. The Doctor doesn't seem to have a moral objection to harnessing beasts of burden in general, which was the original point against the idea of the TARDIS being a naturally occurring creature.

Of course, I don't think that's terribly likely, and figure the TARDIS is a constructed creature and not something the Time Lords found and domesticated.
 
Indeed. I think we have multiple things going on. I can definitely see the TARDIS being "grown" in some way, but that doesn't make it livestock. I believe someone already mentioned that crystals are grown.

That said, I think the "consciousness" and "alive-ness" of the TARDIS may be unrelated to how it was made. It's not alive because of it being some kind of animal. It's "alive" because of the Time Vortex in its "heart."

Overall, it's crazy Time Lord science that I don't think we can really wrap our heads around, nor do we need to.
 
On the contrary, he didn't have a problem with the treatment of the Ood until he found out the Ood had a problem with it. At the black hole base, the Doctor blithely went along with the story that the Ood liked being ordered around and didn't know what to do with themselves otherwise, even though, if I remember right, he himself later acknowledged this notion was ridiculously implausible.

I don't think he really thought much about it until Donna showed up and asked if there were "wild" Ood. The Ood in "The Impossible Planet" were rather happy with their lives.

Indeed. In fact, in Planet of the Ood, when Donna asks about how the Ood are treated, the Doctor admits he never thought much about it last time.

And really, he had no reason to. The Ood in The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit seemed content to their lives, and were actually well looked after by their humans masters. In fact, at the end, the captain gives commendations to each individual Ood that was killed.
 
To go back to the original poster's question of what was meant by the Doctor's line...I agree with the second poster Shazam who stated that he was probably referring to the fact that the Tardis always places him in the midst of a new adventure! I actually quite like that line. Especially the way that the Doctor rubs his hands when he says it (I think I recall him rubbing his hands and grinning micheviously)
 
To me, I think the reference "Ok, what have you got for me this time?" is to the restored TARDIS and that the scene is just before the Doctor enters the new control room.
 
To go back to the original poster's question of what was meant by the Doctor's line...I agree with the second poster Shazam who stated that he was probably referring to the fact that the Tardis always places him in the midst of a new adventure!

So ... the TARDIS is trying to kill the Doctor.

"Mwuh-ha-ha-ha! He'll never escape the Silurians! Drat! Okay, he can't possibly survive the Cybermen! Curses, foiled again! Alright, then ... DALEKS!"

I bet the Master went back in time and regenerated into a Type 40 TARDIS ...
 
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