^ Minor correction-- The Milano was lost with Yondu's ship. The ship in Infinity War is the Benatar.
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Well Cap's had time to go for a shave.... unless the snap affected beards too?
Seems legit.Oh well, I guess that means Spider-Man is not coming back either, because his return story won’t see the light of day now. Kirk5s must be over the moon.
Well Cap's had time to go for a shave.... unless the snap affected beards too?
hehe... they really should have done this in the film. Have Tony and Doc lose their goats at the expense of Cap & Thor beards.
My distaste for a time jump may have impeded my reasoning. Thinking about it scientifically, Thanos has been planting his herbs for awhile. He's got the whole scarecrow thing going down to keep away the fucking deer from nibbling his crops. He's learned his craft a bit. Maybe it is a 5 year or so jump. Hope Thanos has some good shit by now. I wanna try some of that.
I'm loving this guy's videos more and more.
Is it? I swear it looked like the Milano in Infinity War. Unless the Milano and the Benatar are the same class/design of ship just with different names. But you'd think that'd apply to the Milano at the end of GOTG since it was a "new" ship.... But then we get into a Ship of Theseus kind of thing here.... (Of course this would also apply to the Milano during GOTG-2 since it had to be rebuilt/replicated after crashing.)
Anyway I was... "Whelmed" by the trailer.
It didn't disappoint. It didn't blow me away. I'd say it was about what I expected for a first trailer for a movie like this. It was going to give us a whole lot of nibbles and whole lot more of nothing.
Looked good, look forward to the movie, but cannot say the trailer warranted much motivation from me; nor do I see the need for so many 20-minute long YouTube reactions to it.
Earlier today I was thinking maybe it was just humanoid life, but then I remembered Groot....
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They have vaguely similar looks overall, but are quite different from each other when compared. Check out the cockpit just for starters. (Up top on the Milano, as opposed to the one that covers the whole front of the Benatar.)
Mostly due to mediocre or lazy Sci-FI (which, unfortunately, in this case includes Star Trek) people seem to misunderstand what "sentient" life is. Sci-Fi, largely Star Trek, tended to confuse sentience with sapience.
Most of the animal life on this planet is sentient. It has the ability to learn and adapt to its surroundings and knows itself to be an individual from those it encounters. When you get to lower form of animal life, such as insects, that sapience diminishes and goes away as you get into forms of life who do not "think" so much as they just react to stimuli.
An ant is "drawn" to source of food by nothing more than instinct and reaction to its senses. Your pet dog *decides* to go to his bowl and take a mouthful of food.
Sapience however, is something entirely more unique and only a very small handful of species on this planet have displayed any level of it, other than humans. Sapience is much higher thinking and understanding of the world and environment and allows for even overriding instinct and acting independently.
When Star Trek talked about finding "sentient" life, they really mean sapient life. Data once gave a poetic ode to his cat, Spot, saying it wasn't sentient. Cats are sentient. But they're not likely sapient.
From the context of Thanos's motivations, I took it that he wanted to wipe out half of all sapient life and, of chiefly o that the dominant intelligent life of a planet. His concerns were of scarce resources in a universe of limited ones to offer. We didn't see or hear of him lining up half of all life on conquered planets to kill-off, only half of the dominant life. He didn't suggest to his own world leaders to kill half of all life, just to kill half of the population.
He probably saw non-intelligent animal life as being self-sustaining. It operates as much as it can as part of the food chain. But humanoid life operates outside the food chain and society tries all it can to make sure all humanoid life is kept fed. We don't worry about whether or not the neighborhood squirrels have collected enough acorns to get through the winter, but we do worry about whether or not everyone has enough food in their fridge. If they don't we try and to have programs in place to make sure they can get fed in some manner.
No one is going around checking squirrel homes to make sure they've got enough nuts and then putting some in if we don't see enough. (Well that hipster guy with the man-bun probably is, but I digress.
)People on this planet aren't starving because we have to feed a quadrillion ants, or 20 billion rats and mice; but, at the same time, they're not starving because we have to feed 7 billion people. We have plenty of food, we just don't have the system in place to get it to where it needs to be when it needs to be there for various economic reasons.
(We'll assume, Thanos's home planet that launched this idea of his had the means to feed everyone but didn't have the resources to do so, inspiring his motivations.)
Wipe out 3.5 billion people on this planet today and next week there'll still be a 400 miillion people somewhere starving (it just that it was 800 million earlier.) Because those 400 million people just happen to live in places where food simply isn't available for one reason or another, usually no notable local government or infrastructure for it to get there.
Wipe out 3.5 billion people and 1/2 a quadrillion ants, and there's still millions of starving people and 1/2 quadrillion well-fed ants.
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If the fully assembled Infinity Gauntlet truly gave Thanos godly powers of unlimited power, you'd think he'd more "smartly" be able to put his plan into action. Like he'd eliminate not half of all intelligent life (or whatever) but only select which life that is truly starving because they're in places where food simply isn't available.
Or, hell, why not go the other way? Why not double the amount of food there is? Make it MORE available and accessible to places that need it?
Didn't Thanos kill off more than half of living things tho?
Baby animals who required on a mother for feeding then starved to death.
For humanoid/alien races the sudden disappearance leading to car/plane crashes and other accidents. Then going forward did the culling target exactly half of the "needed skill" people or do you have food and drug shortages plus shortages of trained medical personel.
Baby animals who required on a mother for feeding then starved to death.
For humanoid/alien races the sudden disappearance leading to car/plane crashes and other accidents. Then going forward did the culling target exactly half of the "needed skill" people or do you have food and drug shortages plus shortages of trained medical personel.
Guys, in the trailer Nat specifically says "he wiped out 50% of all living creatures".
Not "50% of all sapient beings" or "50% of every bilaterally symmetrical bipedal vertebrate". All. Living. Creatures.
That means everything from bacteria to (presumably) Celestials. Which incidentally includes 50% of all unharvested crops and unslaughtered livestock. So much for "too many mouths, not enough to go around..."
Not "50% of all sapient beings" or "50% of every bilaterally symmetrical bipedal vertebrate". All. Living. Creatures.
That means everything from bacteria to (presumably) Celestials. Which incidentally includes 50% of all unharvested crops and unslaughtered livestock. So much for "too many mouths, not enough to go around..."
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The very reason Thanos--in universe--was a moron of a villain. At the end of it all, he's just a mass murderer who could not see that population control (elimination) solves no problem of resource access/distribution. Of all of the MCU villains, his motivies were up there as the weakest of all.
Exactly...but then you cannot have him being some sort of Big Bad if reason actually played a part in his schemes.
There's no way to know if it happens. I would guess there are a couple of time jumps--backward (which was confirmed by BTS photos earlier this year) and forward, in the aftermath of defeating Thanos, probably to further separate this phase of the MCU from what's coming. Essentially a fresh start with no lingering effect from / hope of seeing favorite characters anymore.
But all those other characters have obvious reasons why they would be listed as missing and Shuri doesn't. Also, every logical role Shuri might be assigned in a movie like this (keeping in mind she's a supporting character for a hero who isn't even in the movie and there's a ton a people needing to share the screentime) would involve her being front and center in either Wakanda or the Avengers, so having her go off on a random side quest and 'surprise' pop up alive halfway through would make no sense.
Asking for a Tony Stank, with a snickering Rodey in the background.....
You might be right. My reasoning is solely based on the grouping of Peter, Scott, and Shuri during that brief clip. It's entirely possible that I'm seeing too much in it and the whole thing is a timing coincidence.
On the other hand, they have been very careful about what they're showing and, because we never actually saw Shuri's fate in The Infinity War, I'm a little more inclined to lean towards my theory.
Now I'll be very disappointed if this moment doesn't happen.
It's better than Magneto's BS motivation and Joker's "random chaos" laziness.
I had a thought earlier today, what if it turns out that she's taken over as Black Panther? I could see a big reveal where we see someone in a Black Panther costume, and at first everyone is confused because because T'Challa died and then they remove the mask and it's her. She was Black Panther for a while in the comics, so there is president.You might be right. My reasoning is solely based on the grouping of Peter, Scott, and Shuri during that brief clip. It's entirely possible that I'm seeing too much in it and the whole thing is a timing coincidence.
On the other hand, they have been very careful about what they're showing and, because we never actually saw Shuri's fate in The Infinity War, I'm a little more inclined to lean towards my theory.
Now I'll be very disappointed if this moment doesn't happen.
I actually really loved the Joker's agent of chaos stuff. He did it because he could. I find that more plausible than some of the stupid bullshit background reasons for most villians.
