Obscure trivia question....
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The six easy ones: William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, DeForest Kelley, James Doohan, George Takei, and Nichelle Nichols.
Not so-easy: Majel Barrett and John Winston
Geekdom: Eddie Paskey, David L. Ross (although I'm not sure either one had a speaking role in each season).
The six easy ones: William Shatner, Leonard Nimoy, DeForest Kelley, James Doohan, George Takei, and Nichelle Nichols.
Not so-easy: Majel Barrett and John Winston
Geekdom: Eddie Paskey, David L. Ross (although I'm not sure either one had a speaking role in each season).
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Bobby Clarke?
How about a hint --- "on-screen" meaning seeing the person as he/she speaks, or possibly a voice-over?
How about Vic Perrin or Bart LaRue?
How about Vic Perrin or Bart LaRue?
David L. Ross was the only one I guessed right -- I went right to the obscure ones and skipped over Chapel and Kyle. I found the other by paging through the Concordance. I believe it's Sean Morgan: http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Sean_Morgan
^^Good try, but Memory Alpha includes a lot of episodes for actors where they do not speak dialogue.
The three episodes where Morgan speaks are:
Balence of Terror (uncredited)
Return of the Archons AND
Tholian Web
He is given credit in 'Ultimate Computor'---but speaks no lines (or his lines were cut)
Don't go by Memory Alpha for the number of speaking appearances by actors....
For example John Winston as Kyle is listed as being in 15 episodes by Memory Alpha, but he really only is in 11--all credited (although he does not speak in 'Space Seed'
When I bought all 3 TOS season sets, I carefully watched every episode and accounted for every speaking part--952 of them.
With the help of various books and websites (including Memory Alpha) I have accounted for every actor--399 of them (except 4 who may go forever uncredited)
By the way the only actor I list among the 399 that did not speak on camera is Kathryn Hays as Gem--who was mute of course.
I'll give the answer to my trivia question tomorrow if no one guesses before then.
The three episodes where Morgan speaks are:
Balence of Terror (uncredited)
Return of the Archons AND
Tholian Web
He is given credit in 'Ultimate Computor'---but speaks no lines (or his lines were cut)
Don't go by Memory Alpha for the number of speaking appearances by actors....
For example John Winston as Kyle is listed as being in 15 episodes by Memory Alpha, but he really only is in 11--all credited (although he does not speak in 'Space Seed'
When I bought all 3 TOS season sets, I carefully watched every episode and accounted for every speaking part--952 of them.
With the help of various books and websites (including Memory Alpha) I have accounted for every actor--399 of them (except 4 who may go forever uncredited)
By the way the only actor I list among the 399 that did not speak on camera is Kathryn Hays as Gem--who was mute of course.
I'll give the answer to my trivia question tomorrow if no one guesses before then.
Yes, you got it--Ed McCready--he had speaking roles in all those episodes.
As for even far more obscure trivia...........
Here's the 4 speaking parts from TOS that were not credited AND I have never seen reference to in any book or site.
'Private Little War' at the end when Nona is giving the phaser one to the 'villagers'
unnamed villager (blueish shirt), "She's a Kaa-nu-tu"
then later...
unnamed villager (orange shirt), "Hill people!"
note, neither of these is 'patrol leader' played by stuntman/actor Paul Baxley
'Piece of the Action' when the little kid cons the guards outside Krako's HQ........
hood #1 (credited actor), "He's a cute kid isn't he."
hood #2 (unknown actor), "Sure is!"
'Spock's Brain' after Kara leaves the captured Ent crew...
Kara, "Keep them here"
Morg guard (unknown actor), "Yes, mistress."
Note: the other 'Morg guard' is played by stunt guy/actor Pete Kellet (mirror Kirk bodyguard), BUT he does not speak that line and in fact, doesn't speak at all in 'Spock's Brain'
So there are the 4 lost TOS actors.
Since all 4 get involved in scuffles during their appearances, they were probably mostly stunt guys who happened to get a line thrown their way.
Ironically, the stunt guys who played the Andorian & the Tellarite in 'Whom Gods Destroy' both got credit as actors despite NOT saying any lines in that episode (Same as Kloog & the 'andorian' did in 'Gamesters....")
As I already said, I found him by looking through the Star Trek Concordance, which listed him as a guest star in about 5 episodes. I only linked to the Memory Alpha page afterward as a convenient reference for this thread; it was not the basis of my research, as I explained.
Probably involves their pay rates, or the episode budget. Some stunt people are also SAG (Screen Actors' Guild) members.
Also, there was some rule in the 60s about stunt guys not working for different studios on the same day, so a few Star Trek stunt guys went uncredited because they were working under assumed names, and due to be doing stunts for another production at the same time. Otherwise, according to the paperwork they could be doing stunt coordination, an actual stunt and a bit-part acting role for several studios simultaneously.
I was just commenting on Memory Alpha in general--not on where you originally found the info.
Memory Alpha is a fantastic tool, but there is lots of contradictory stuff in it as well.
Are you referring to the 1970s Star Trek Concordance?
That was also a great font of info, but also had many actor appearance mistakes.
One the most notable in my memory is==
John Bounoumo as an 'orderly' in 'Requeim for...'
For years I thought the 'orderly' scene had been cut for sydication, only to find out later it NEVER was in any aired version of TOS. Probably cut for time before the original airing if it was even filmed at all.
Bjo sometimes had access to Desilu and Paramount "call sheets", and sometimes the information on these were different from the final credits. Also, several stunt guys deliberately gave pseudonyms for their assignments to skirt around Guild rules.
Exactly, she was looking at stuff that in some cases didn't match the final cut of the shows.
I also agree that lots of funny business went on with peoples names to fool the accountants about who was doing what.
The Star Trek encyclopedia lists extra/ actor Frank DaVinci as Bud DaVinci, Frank Vince, Vinci, Frank Vince, etc, etc as if they were diifferent people.
In their attempt to be extra informative they are actually confusing the reader.
I mean I don't care who was on a 1967 'call sheet' for a certain episode if he never appeared (or ever will appear)in any aired version of the show.
When you look at Memory Alphas actor index for any given episode they lump background extras with no spoken lines as uncredited actors!?!
It's just stupid to combine background extras with the actors who are actually moving the story forward.
No show has ever listed extras with the actual actors.
I think it just confuses folks when Alpha lists 7 additional people as uncredited actors, when all they did was walk down a corridor.
W/o looking at others' posts:
The obvious would be:
ShatNimoyKelleyDoohanNicholsTakei
then Barrett
the guy who did voices and was onscreen in Mirror Mirror
guy who played Leslie whether he'd been killed already or not
?
The obvious would be:
ShatNimoyKelleyDoohanNicholsTakei
then Barrett
the guy who did voices and was onscreen in Mirror Mirror
guy who played Leslie whether he'd been killed already or not
?
But Dorothy Jones Heydt and Bjo Trimble had to do their work from TV airings only, in longhand, on file cards. They audiotaped some episodes for future reference, but in the pre-video era, if you missed the actual episode's screening, there was no way to rerun it.
The first fan version of the Concordance had to come out in two sections, because the final episode had been pre-empted by a news event, and they couldn't wait for rerun season!
Getting hold of scripts and call sheets was the only alternative for missed or misleading data. Or buying a 16mm film projector and borrowing actual reels from Paramount!
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