nuTrek Fans: What is Your Favorite TV Series?

[Greg Cox]

I cant believe TNG isn't on the board yet. OTOH, my two faves are racking up the votes.

It is interesting, but not surprising. I have seen consistent comments about how nuTrek is appealing because it moved away from the Berman-era/TNG style of Trek and went back to the more fun, loose, and entertaining style of Trek found in TOS.

I have a pet theory, based solely on anecdotal evidence,that much of the opposition to the reboot comes not from us old coots who grew up watching Captain Kirk fight the Gorn, but from the "next generation" of fans who want the new movies to be less like TOS and more like TNG . . ..

 

[IrishNero]

You know, I can't say I have a favorite series. I like them all for different reasons. I can say that I grew up on TOS and really loved TNG when it came out. I will admit that I started to lose interest by the time VOY and DS9 came out, but having went back and watched them, I find them to be very good.

I liked Enterprise as a means to rethink the genre although every time I watch the finale of ENT, I must resist the urge to stick a fork in a light socket (what a colossally awful way to end a show. Enterprise kind of pointed out that there's a whole lot of thinking and formulation that would go into becoming a race of truly sentient and benevolent beings. Archer is a loose canon, whereas Kirk is a little less so and Picard is so civil in tone. So you can kind of see the evolution in terms of how we approach the role of being a starship captain. If you watch the five series from beginning to end (with ENT being the start), you can really see formulation going on.

 

[Jedi_Master]

I cant believe TNG isn't on the board yet. OTOH, my two faves are racking up the votes.

It is interesting, but not surprising. I have seen consistent comments about how nuTrek is appealing because it moved away from the Berman-era/TNG style of Trek and went back to the more fun, loose, and entertaining style of Trek found in TOS.

I have a pet theory, based solely on anecdotal evidence,that much of the opposition to the reboot comes not from us old coots who grew up watching Captain Kirk fight the Gorn, but on the "next generation" of fans who want the new movies to be less like TOS and more like TNG . . ..

I tend to agree, as even self proclaimed TOS fans who complain about nuTrek often reference nuTrek's ignorance of Roddenberry's idealism and "vision", something that was far more apparent in the first few seasons of TNG than it was in TOS.

 

[The Doctor]

My favorite TV series?

Either Buffy or The West Wing.

Ohh.... That's not what you meant.

In that case, the one with "Star Trek" in the title.

Well, you're wrong because your post didn't start and end with Friday Night Lights.

So far as Star Trek goes, I like the original best.

 

[martok2112]

My favorite TV series?

Either Buffy or The West Wing.

Ohh.... That's not what you meant.

In that case, the one with "Star Trek" in the title.

Buffy and West Wing are tied for number two spot of my all time favorite tv series. Top spot goes to M*A*S*H*.

 

[Ovation]

I cant believe TNG isn't on the board yet. OTOH, my two faves are racking up the votes.

It is interesting, but not surprising. I have seen consistent comments about how nuTrek is appealing because it moved away from the Berman-era/TNG style of Trek and went back to the more fun, loose, and entertaining style of Trek found in TOS.

I have a pet theory, based solely on anecdotal evidence,that much of the opposition to the reboot comes not from us old coots who grew up watching Captain Kirk fight the Gorn, but from the "next generation" of fans who want the new movies to be less like TOS and more like TNG . . ..

I concur with your theory, as I've had similar anecdotal experiences. You may be onto something.

 

[Mudd]

I cant believe TNG isn't on the board yet. OTOH, my two faves are racking up the votes.

It is interesting, but not surprising. I have seen consistent comments about how nuTrek is appealing because it moved away from the Berman-era/TNG style of Trek and went back to the more fun, loose, and entertaining style of Trek found in TOS.

I have a pet theory, based solely on anecdotal evidence,that much of the opposition to the reboot comes not from us old coots who grew up watching Captain Kirk fight the Gorn, but from the "next generation" of fans who want the new movies to be less like TOS and more like TNG . . ..

Pretty likely.

 

[Makarov]

There's probably a fair number of old TOS fans that oppose the reboot for tainting their old love any number of reasons.

 

[Nerys Myk]

There's probably a fair number of old TOS fans that oppose the reboot for tainting their old love any number of reasons.

I don't think anyone has claimed otherwise. Trek fandom is like IDIC.

 

[BillJ]

There's probably a fair number of old TOS fans that oppose the reboot for tainting their old love any number of reasons.

I don't think anyone has claimed otherwise. Trek fandom is like IDIC.

Yep. All one has to do is go to the TOS forum and mention the Abrams films. Then they all come attacking like rabid pitbulls!

 

[M'Sharak]

There's probably a fair number of old TOS fans that oppose the reboot for tainting their old love any number of reasons.

I don't think anyone has claimed otherwise. Trek fandom is like IDIC.

Yep. All one has to do is go to the TOS forum and mention the Abrams films. Then they all come attacking like rabid pitbulls!

Note: This is not a thing one should do intentionally, as it has a way of getting one yelled at by an annoyed Romulan.

 

[Ovation]

But I've just finished marking several dozen papers and was looking to disturb some sh..(fecal matter) for kicks. How come we can never have any fun around here.

 

[USS Pertinax]

There's probably a fair number of old TOS fans that oppose the reboot for tainting their old love any number of reasons.

They should be happy. They had a good run. Plenty of great properties don's have the same impact and last as long.

 

[drt]

I have a pet theory, based solely on anecdotal evidence,that much of the opposition to the reboot comes not from us old coots who grew up watching Captain Kirk fight the Gorn, but from the "next generation" of fans who want the new movies to be less like TOS and more like TNG . . ..

I've been onboard with that theory since you first proposed in the "Future" forum's Prime universe thread.

Now that we have a decent sampling, it's interesting that the current breakdown is predominantly TOS/DS9 fans in practically a 50:50 split.

 

[eyeresist]

Archer is a loose canon, whereas Kirk is a little less so and Picard is so civil in tone.

NuKirk is surely a lot looser than Archer? Ignoring orders and regulations, beating up a prisoner. Admittedly Archer actually does these too, but in his case they are heavily considered deeds in order to save Earth, not examples of an inability to control himself.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

I more of a TOS fan really since the universe was weirder, wilder, and could be a dark place at times.

It is interesting, but not surprising. I have seen consistent comments about how nuTrek is appealing because it moved away from the Berman-era/TNG style of Trek and went back to the more fun, loose, and entertaining style of Trek found in TOS.

I have a pet theory, based solely on anecdotal evidence,that much of the opposition to the reboot comes not from us old coots who grew up watching Captain Kirk fight the Gorn, but on the "next generation" of fans who want the new movies to be less like TOS and more like TNG . . ..

I tend to agree, as even self proclaimed TOS fans who complain about nuTrek often reference nuTrek's ignorance of Roddenberry's idealism and "vision", something that was far more apparent in the first few seasons of TNG than it was in TOS.

I've been to the Star Trek Online forums which seems more TNG fan territory and it seems to have decent sized JJverse hatedom.

Also including bitching about anything that seems remotly fun that doesn't line up with their puritanical views on trek.

 

[bbailey861]

TOS, first and foremost. I grew up with it as a kid, and it definitely left life-long impressions; it must have - it's still a hobby almost 50 years later.

 

[Cyke101]

Archer is a loose canon, whereas Kirk is a little less so and Picard is so civil in tone.

NuKirk is surely a lot looser than Archer? Ignoring orders and regulations, beating up a prisoner. Admittedly Archer actually does these too, but in his case they are heavily considered deeds in order to save Earth, not examples of an inability to control himself.

Well, one thing to note is that Archer is almost twice the age of NuKirk with much more experience when we see him pulling off those things. NuKirk, on the other hand, eventually saved the day in Into Darkness by remembering orders and regulations, starting with realization that the meeting of bigwigs was a trap because Khan was using Starfleet protocol to his advantage. And then NuKirk's own personal story was essentially about turning from the reckless cadet of ST09 to the kind of captain who would take responsibility for his crew, including death. Indeed, his pummeling Khan could be a metaphor about how pointless and ineffective it is to sidestep regulations, that depending only on pure emotion is tiring. And the away team mission was a result of Spock reminding him about the rightfulness of those regulations, when Kirk's original orders by Marcus were a very un-Starfleet assassination attempt (which Kirk was more than happy to oblige).

I admit it's not exactly an airtight point, and for all we know, STXIII might revert NuKirk back to his partying days, but STID showed a Kirk who was gaining more and more respect for Starfleet rules and regulations; so the comparison to Archer, I don't think, is completely unfounded.

 

[eyeresist]

I agree that the question of NuKirk's character development in STID really depends on what happens with ST3.

 

[RandyS]

For me, the JJ movies split Star Trek right down the middle. My favorites are, TOS, TNG, and DS9. I enjoy aspects of VOYAGER, ENTERPRISE and the JJ movies, but, it just isn't the same.