Number One= Starfleet Computer voice. Coincidence? I think not.
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Geez, leave it to Beaker to be offended by just about any innocent question! 
(Hmm, this could be the start of a BBS sitcom, Leave it to Beaker, about a guy who grumbles about, oh, everything! Like Becker, only not as funny! 
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Actually, the Enterprise computer voice was Daystrom's secret predecessor to M-5 -- call her M-1 -- "not entirely successful," based on Pike's Number One's memory engrams. But M-1 didn't stroke Daystrom's ego enough, so he went on to build the other unsuccessful multitronic units, till he built his teacher's pet, M-5!
Red Ranger
(Hmm, this could be the start of a BBS sitcom, Leave it to Beaker, about a guy who grumbles about, oh, everything! Like Becker, only not as funny! )Actually, the Enterprise computer voice was Daystrom's secret predecessor to M-5 -- call her M-1 -- "not entirely successful," based on Pike's Number One's memory engrams. But M-1 didn't stroke Daystrom's ego enough, so he went on to build the other unsuccessful multitronic units, till he built his teacher's pet, M-5!
Red Ranger
Geez, leave it to Beaker to be offended by just about any innocent question!
Actually, the Enterprise computer voice was Daystrom's secret predecessor to M-5 -- call her M-1 -- "not entirely successful," based on Pike's Number One's memory engrams. But M-1 didn't stroke Daystrom's ego enough, so he went on to build the other unsuccessful multitronic units, till he built his teacher's pet, M-5!
Red Ranger
Yes...M-5...the one with his engrams....the one that went on to murder several hundred Starfleet officers, and could have just as easily wiped out a whole crew of civilians if that other ship hadn't been a drone.
Amazingly successful.
I'm surprised Starfleet didn't order Data destroyed when that Starship crew found him decades later, in the echoes of the M-5 incident.
Geez, leave it to Beaker to be offended by just about any innocent question!
Actually, the Enterprise computer voice was Daystrom's secret predecessor to M-5 -- call her M-1 -- "not entirely successful," based on Pike's Number One's memory engrams. But M-1 didn't stroke Daystrom's ego enough, so he went on to build the other unsuccessful multitronic units, till he built his teacher's pet, M-5!
Red Ranger
Yes...M-5...the one with his engrams....the one that went on to murder several hundred Starfleet officers, and could have just as easily wiped out a whole crew of civilians if that other ship hadn't been a drone.
Amazingly successful.
I'm surprised Starfleet didn't order Data destroyed when that Starship crew found him decades later, in the echoes of the M-5 incident.
Gastrof: Well, I was being sarcastic about M-5. But you raise an interesting point that should be the basis for an independent thread. What was Starfleet's reaction at first to Data's discovery? Wonder if any novel's delved into that? We do know Bruce Maddox was the only member of the Starfleet board that wouldn't approve Data's application to Starfleet Academy on the grounds that he wasn't a sentient being. Surely he's not unique! -- RR
Alas, in VOY "Prototype", Torres explicitly establishes Data as the only sentient android in the Federation in the 2370s.
So apparently all other sentient androids choose not to hold UFP citizenship, or have been hunted to extinction. It's possible that Federation AI technology has proceeded way past the stage where it would be useful or even interesting to squeeze the AIs into android bodies, and Data's body is just an insignificant antique toy that Dr. Soong created as a marketing tool for his new positronic technology. It's not as if anybody ever found Data's body technologically interesting, after all: it only ever held interest as the vessel to his advanced positronic brain, as a rarity item, or as a sex toy.
Timo Saloniemi
So apparently all other sentient androids choose not to hold UFP citizenship, or have been hunted to extinction. It's possible that Federation AI technology has proceeded way past the stage where it would be useful or even interesting to squeeze the AIs into android bodies, and Data's body is just an insignificant antique toy that Dr. Soong created as a marketing tool for his new positronic technology. It's not as if anybody ever found Data's body technologically interesting, after all: it only ever held interest as the vessel to his advanced positronic brain, as a rarity item, or as a sex toy.
Timo Saloniemi
Or, he's the only one proven sentient via the court case in "The Measure of a Man".
That's a nice one!
But that court didn't prove Data sentient, only that Data has the right to choose his own fate. All sides accepted that Data was a very clever machine, sentient in the usual meaning of the word, but that as such wouldn't have helped him in his case.
Lacking precedent (which is the odd thing about this trial), Louvois could have judged that a sentient machine is comparable to a toaster and is to be treated as property. Hell, given her apparent breadth of powers, she could probably have judged that Riker is comparable to a toaster and is to be treated as property, had there not been explicit precedent that made it unpalatable to treat members of H. sapiens as property.
Timo Saloniemi
But that court didn't prove Data sentient, only that Data has the right to choose his own fate. All sides accepted that Data was a very clever machine, sentient in the usual meaning of the word, but that as such wouldn't have helped him in his case.
Lacking precedent (which is the odd thing about this trial), Louvois could have judged that a sentient machine is comparable to a toaster and is to be treated as property. Hell, given her apparent breadth of powers, she could probably have judged that Riker is comparable to a toaster and is to be treated as property, had there not been explicit precedent that made it unpalatable to treat members of H. sapiens as property.
Timo Saloniemi
I don't think that just because the name itself wasn't given in the WB doesn't mean that she wouldn't have eventually had one. Maybe that was being saved for a later date, and they didn't want it revealed too soon. If it had been known that she's really Betty Sue, some dumbfuck would have tried to be the one to put it on the air and kill the mystery.
So, save the mystery for a later date.
PS maybe she was going to be named laxawana?
But that might just be BC I'm used to serialized 21st century dramas that plot shit out 3 years in advance.
Geez, leave it to Beaker to be offended by just about any innocent question!
ok, first of all, I didn't say I was offended. Second, what, am I here to amuse you? Like a clown? Is that what you're saying? Third, I'm plenty funny. I'm an honest-to-christ card. Ask anybody. Come on, just the name "A beaker full of death" brings a smile to people's faces. True, most of them reside in the Afghani mountains...
Geez, leave it to Beaker to be offended by just about any innocent question!
ok, first of all, I didn't say I was offended. Second, what, am I here to amuse you? Like a clown? Is that what you're saying? Third, I'm plenty funny. I'm an honest-to-christ card. Ask anybody. Come on, just the name "A beaker full of death" brings a smile to people's faces. True, most of them reside in the Afghani mountains...
Could've fooled me! And yes, you are a clown, you do amuse me, you do make me laugh! Now go get your f***ing shine box!
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