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Number One Reason to Love TOS

What was the number one reason that you think that the Original Series was the best??

It was the plot, but the campiness of it comes at a close second! :)

I see this unfounded (and flat-out wrong) critisism of the show alot, so let me ask: why do you think it was campy?

"Camp" isn't necessarily a criticism... the OP is presenting that description as a positive thing. "Camp" is not synonymous with "bad."

There are plenty of people who genuinely enjoy camp as a fun expression of pop art. Think of Andy Warhol's artwork, for example.

For me, there is some of that theatrical, pop-art quality apparent in the main theme music, the abundance of bright colors throughout the series, and also in some of Shatner's more intense acting moments. This is the kind of show that I can watch while kicking back in a vintage lounge chair someplace in Palm Springs with a fez, smoking jacket, and a martini. :cool: And I can't say that about any of the later Trek series.

Kor
 
...the abundance of bright colors throughout the series, and also in some of Shatner's more intense acting moments.

Neither was camp though...

One was done to help RCA sell color TV's. The other was simply from Shatner's time in theater.
 
What was the number one reason that you think that the Original Series was the best??

It was the plot, but the campiness of it comes at a close second! :)

I see this unfounded (and flat-out wrong) critisism of the show alot, so let me ask: why do you think it was campy?

"Camp" isn't necessarily a criticism... the OP is presenting that description as a positive thing. "Camp" is not synonymous with "bad."

There are plenty of people who genuinely enjoy camp as a fun expression of pop art. Think of Andy Warhol's artwork, for example.

For me, there is some of that theatrical, pop-art quality apparent in the main theme music, the abundance of bright colors throughout the series, and also in some of Shatner's more intense acting moments. This is the kind of show that I can watch while kicking back in a vintage lounge chair someplace in Palm Springs with a fez, smoking jacket, and a martini. :cool: And I can't say that about any of the later Trek series.

Kor

Yeah, but most of the time when fans (usually the younger ones) call TOS campy, they usually mean it as a criticism. I disagree with that viewpoint, but want to hear why they say that.
 
Older television programs had actors that emoted given many of them were trained in theatre on stage. Today's actors generally tend to be more emotionally flat. They tend not to enunciate their dialogue as well as previous actors either.
 
To me, TOS always projects a sense of wonder, of really pushing out into the vast, unknown reaches of space.

It also has a sense of great fun (even in the most dismal hours of the Turd Season), which I find severely lacking in much of later Trek.
Kor

Not a comment directly on the OP, but while there is no disputing that there were many comedic interludes during its run, even episodes that were primarily mirthful, I often didn't find a lot of the humor that funny. They felt at times like conventional set pieces that were forced or overused. Of course the dynamic between Spock and McCoy nearly always featured a jibe from the Doctor, but as with its frequency, the dialogue used in the rejoinders came across to me as cornpone, as with comedic refrains from other characters as well.

I also got the impression, more than a few times, that the audience was being given directions, most blatantly at the end of episodes when comedy came into play, in effect having a laugh sign flashed before them, in acknowledgment of the supposedly uproarious, back slapping fade out we were presented with. Honestly, it often felt phony, just as the finale of Before and After is often pointed to with Janeway's dialogue mistake leading to Kes running off to record her report on the Krenim, leaving everyone on the holodeck erupting incongruously as one.

Mind you, I'm not painting all humor on TOS with this brush, as there were a number of uproariously funny sequences, perhaps when the object of the mirth was totally and unexpectedly introduced. There were also occasions when the humor was appropriately bitter and biting.

I just find that overall, and more than just by a little bit, Voyager(despite the example I cited above) was the most consistently comedic of any of the shows in the franchise, a view that I've heard often conceded, even by people who frankly admit that they don't particularly think much of the show generally, otherwise.


Macao Orange.

I respect the serious gravitas that you bring to these premises, so characteristically communicating so much with so few words, and apparently effort. But this is one of those not necessarily infrequent occasions that my relative greenness compels me to simply and humbly ask what piece of arcana or, perhaps, just as likely, obvious and overarching profundity, you are referring to as I haven't a clue.

Thank you in advance sir, for revealing the verity behind this nugget. :confused:



This is the kind of show that I can watch while kicking back in a vintage lounge chair someplace in Palm Springs with a fez, smoking jacket, and a martini. :cool: And I can't say that about any of the later Trek series.
Kor

Just out of idle curiosity, understanding that it might be too personal to reveal the answer, about how often do you find yourself garbed in a fez and smoking jacket? I adore the latter, gave one as a gift once to someone I respected greatly, but have found that for many years now, they are nowhere to be found, at least in the less pricey outlets that I frequent, venues that did indeed carry them on a regular basis long ago.
 
Macao Orange.

I respect the serious gravitas that you bring to these premises, so characteristically communicating so much with so few words, and apparently effort. But this is one of those not necessarily infrequent occasions that my relative greenness compels me to simply and humbly ask what piece of arcana or, perhaps, just as likely, obvious and overarching profundity, you are referring to as I haven't a clue.

Thank you in advance sir, for revealing the verity behind this nugget. :confused:

<points at the hex-mesh grilles and other rex-orange details all over the sets>
 
Macao Orange.

I respect the serious gravitas that you bring to these premises, so characteristically communicating so much with so few words, and apparently effort. But this is one of those not necessarily infrequent occasions that my relative greenness compels me to simply and humbly ask what piece of arcana or, perhaps, just as likely, obvious and overarching profundity, you are referring to as I haven't a clue.

Thank you in advance sir, for revealing the verity behind this nugget. :confused:

<points at the hex-mesh grilles and other rex-orange details all over the sets>


Thank you very much for this perhaps too obvious for it to have registered type detail. Macao threw me, because as I'd never heard of that tone, I thought the word's use as a qualifier, perhaps gave the phrase a likely meaning having nothing to do with a color.

Anyway, much appreciated!:techman:
 
He did look good as the rotting uncle climbing out of his grave in Creepshow I must admit! ;)
JB
 
The characters. Without such likeable and relatable characters as Kirk, Spock, McCoy and the rest, I don't think Trek would be remembered today.
 
What a stupid type-o. I meat to see we will overcome bigotry and greed, not green. My apologies to any Orion readers.
 
One reason? Here's mine:

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Period.
 
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