Number One, captain of the Enterprise

[Grendelsbayne]

Oh, certainly. It's just that if she went farther than Kirk, this would at the very least give new perspective to who Kirk was, how famous, how exceptional, so forth. Over-Kirking Kirk just strikes me as overkill.

All of this is well beyond the scope of DSC itself anyway. I'm delighted to see some of the "The Cage" characters again. And I'm also hoping we don't see all of them, for realism's sake. But dropping Number One from the mix would certainly be a bigger loss than dropping old Boyce or the rather irrelevant Tyler.

Timo Saloniemi

I don't think I'd describe pure exploration as 'Out-Kirking Kirk'. His legend typically seems built on his reputation as a combat commander, finding brilliant ways out of no-win scenarios, etc. There's no reason her mission need necessarily be comparable to his.

But I agree entirely about the second part.

 

[Tuskin38]

Since STD is not in Prime

It is Prime, so he won't be permanent.

 

[Greg Cox]

I guess the big thing continuity-wise is to somehow get rid of her before Pike's big accident, so that only Spock remains available for arguing with him on that mental euthanasia thing...

Having her go out in a blaze of glory before the mid-sixties would seem more fitting than having her promoted so high up that she can't take the time to go see Pike. Although she could also be sent somewhere across the galaxy on a daring mission of exploration or something.

Timo Saloniemi

As I recall, that's how we handled it in the LEGACIES books. She was way off in space, commanding the Yorktown on some vital mission, when Pike had his accident. By the time she returned to check on him, Spock had already whisked him off to Talos IV. (Part of the plot concerns her trying to find out from Spock what actually happened to Pike, since the events of "The Menagerie" are top-secret and strictly need to know.)

 

[Ronald Held]

A woman in command on the Enterprise, I think half the fandom just had an aneurism.

Good.

Rachel Garrett did not count for the E-C???

 

[XCV330]

Rachel Garrett did not count for the E-C???

not to mention T'Pol being acting captain on NX-01 as soon as the Suliban abducted Archer

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

And on the Enterprise-D at least three women (Troi, Crusher and Tasha) have all stood watch on the bridge.

 

[Longinus]

not to mention T'Pol being acting captain on NX-01 as soon as the Suliban abducted Archer

It is such a shame that they eventually got Archer back though.

 

[Takeru]

I have thought the Pike/Enterprise popping up was a backdoor pilot since they turned up. It wasn't Spock's job back then so I have no problem with it. Number One is Commander Una in the Discovery tie in novel by David Mack.

That's an awful name, way to literal, Discovery has to give her a proper one.

It's believable that Enterprise went through a refit

Red paint and new monitors counts as a refit?

 

[Vger23]

Since STD is not in Prime I don't have a problem if Pike becomes Captain of Discovery. But ONLY if he is good, Lorca level good. Thought I still would prefer Lorca. BBL!

It is Prime, so he won't be permanent.

I have an idea. I think every time someone decides to pick the "It's not prime / it is prime" scab and rub rock salt in it just for their own amusement, the punishment will be a Ceti Eel in each ear, a Centaurian slug down the throat, and 24 hours watching "Threshold" (VOY) Clockwork Orange style in a humid room with the thermostat set at 39.1 degrees C.

Just a thought.....

 

[dahj]

a Ceti Eel in each ear, a Centaurian slug down the throat, and 24 hours watching "Threshold" (VOY) Clockwork Orange style in a humid room with the thermostat set at 39.1 degrees C.

Well that's how I plan on spending my Cardassian-themed holiday so...

It's Prime!

 

[Tuskin38]

I have an idea. I think every time someone decides to pick the "It's not prime / it is prime" scab and rub rock salt in it just for their own amusement, the punishment will be a Ceti Eel in each ear, a Centaurian slug down the throat, and 24 hours watching "Threshold" (VOY) Clockwork Orange style in a humid room with the thermostat set at 39.1 degrees C.

Just a thought.....

I would rather watch threshold then see people claim it isn't prime.

 

[Longinus]

I would rather watch threshold then see people claim it isn't prime.

Whilst I can easily believe that Threshold and Discovery are part of the same continuity, I'm less convinced that that continuity is the Prime.

 

[Vger23]

You guys are the best.

 

[Kor]

I'd love to see Number One be an actual captain of the Enterprise but dialogue from the Menagerie precludes putting anyone between Pike and Kirk.

MENDEZ: You ever met Chris Pike?
KIRK: When he was promoted to Fleet Captain.
MENDEZ: About your age. Big, handsome man, vital, active.
KIRK: I took over the Enterprise from him. Spock served with him for several years.

It would take some real gymnastics to have Number One as the official commanding Officer (rather than just in command in Pike's absence) with the rank of Captain and then have Pike come back to the Enterprise afterward.

Not necessarily any more gymnastics than Kirk commanding the refit 1701, then having Spock command it for a while for training cruises, and then having Kirk take command yet again.

Kor

 

[Takeru]

Not necessarily any more gymnastics than Kirk commanding the refit 1701, then having Spock command it for a while for training cruises, and then having Kirk take command yet again.

Kor

Or when Jellico replaced Picard (ceremony and all) only for Picard to come back.
Number One being the official captain of the Enterprise doesn't contradict anything, she could have her own five year mission with Pike coming back in 2262 and commanding it again before Kirk takes over.

 

[Spider]

Other than as a talking point (or perhaps a argumenative point LOL) not a single one of all the Star Trek TV shows follows continuity or canon, they all violate it in some degree. It's how much they violate our Star Trek history, not if.

I can see where it's fun to point all that out, but not worth getting your panties all bunched up over it. Pike making an appearance sounds fun, as does Number One and Spock showing up. I think they should reshoot the original pilot again with the new crew. LOL

 

[ITDUDE]

I have an idea. I think every time someone decides to pick the "It's not prime / it is prime" scab and rub rock salt in it just for their own amusement, the punishment will be a Ceti Eel in each ear, a Centaurian slug down the throat, and 24 hours watching "Threshold" (VOY) Clockwork Orange style in a humid room with the thermostat set at 39.1 degrees C.

Just a thought.....

Better than TATV!
Not Prime!

 

[Kemaiku]

Rachel Garrett did not count for the E-C???

I meant the original in particular. Especially pre-Kirk.

 

[LtChange]

Or when Jellico replaced Picard (ceremony and all) only for Picard to come back.
Number One being the official captain of the Enterprise doesn't contradict anything, she could have her own five year mission with Pike coming back in 2262 and commanding it again before Kirk takes over.

Exactly. The Enterprise-D beside Jean-Luc Picard had as official captains both Jellico and Riker (during the events of Best of Both Worlds) yet nobody says the E-D had 3 captains. So for me it is plausible that the Enterrpise had others captains for a while. It isn't braking any canon. Pike could stick on Discovery several years and than go back to the Enterprise. But I'm pretty sure that Pike will be around only for one season and we will se another captain for Discovery (maybe Saru, maybe someone new) before Burnham will become captain in season 5 probably.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

The beauty of TATV, part of the love letter if you will, is that we can't say for sure that any of what was shown on the holodeck is actually what happened in-universe. Take Trip's "death" for instance....