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nuConstellation series?

MarsWeeps

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Trek is due for a return to TV. I think one idea would be to have the series set in J.J. Abrams universe and have it focus on the USS Constellation.

The ship would be the same class as the Enterprise, under command of Matt Decker.

I can see a 5 year run, with the series finale as a 2 hour episode - a remake of "The Doomsday Machine" - with the Enterprise making an appearance. Decker and the Constellation meet the same fate as TOS story but not an identical copy of that episode.

I'd like to see the crew go out on a more heroic note.

Any other ideas for a new series?
 
Sounds like a doable concept for a TV series, but you could swap "Decker" and "the Constellation" for any other captain and ship name and it would do just as well.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to use a Space Shuttle name for the ship's name, regardless of whether there is a canon one of that name or not (easily established).

Here are important questions for the viability of this or any other Trek series: where will it air and what will attract the viewers of that channel to watch it? Unless you can answer those questions, there won't be a five year run or a five minute run.
 
Trek is due for a return to TV. I think one idea would be to have the series set in J.J. Abrams universe and have it focus on the USS Constellation.

The ship would be the same class as the Enterprise, under command of Matt Decker.

I can see a 5 year run, with the series finale as a 2 hour episode - a remake of "The Doomsday Machine" - with the Enterprise making an appearance. Decker and the Constellation meet the same fate as TOS story but not an identical copy of that episode.

I'd like to see the crew go out on a more heroic note.

Any other ideas for a new series?

My, is it that time of the year already when people start posting ideas on the "Future of Trek" forum that they've pulled out of their ass and spent about ten seconds coming up with?

Okay then, here's my idea: "Star Trek: Betazoid Weddings." It's a reality show where each episode focuses on the trials and tribulations of wedding ceremonies on the planet Betazed. Because, you know, everybody's nude.

Reality television + nudity = RATINGS WINNER!!!!!!!:lol:
 
@Temis...except that the OP's suggestion of the finale being a redo of "The Doomsday Machine" is directly connected to this particular ship and Captain. The Constitution was the flagship of Starfleet at this time and the forerunner of the class. So no swapping the ship and captain would change the very nature of the OP's concept.
 
@Temis...except that the OP's suggestion of the finale being a redo of "The Doomsday Machine" is directly connected to this particular ship and Captain. The Constitution was the flagship of Starfleet at this time and the forerunner of the class. So no swapping the ship and captain would change the very nature of the OP's concept.

I think Temis's point is the success of the series doesn't depend on the name/design of the ship. Who cares how a show will end in 5 years if it won't be renewed after one? Focus on creating a compelling show that will be convince CBS to produce it. If the show is good enough to last 5 years it can have a great finale regardless of if it ties into a random TOS episode.

Oh, and wasn't one of the criticisms of TATV that it spent too much time with the TNG characters instead of giving the ENT crew the time they deserved? How would ending a 5 year run with the crew being beamed down to a planet before it's destroyed and then having another ship show up be any different?
 
I understand what Temis' point was but I think she was failing to understand the concept that the OP came up with. If another Captain and ship is used then we might as well toss out what the first poster suggested.
 
I think Temis's point is the success of the series doesn't depend on the name/design of the ship.
Exactly. Very few people will notice the difference and the action can be set in the parallel Abrams' universe, where the ship's name could easily be different.

It would be a shame to forego the easy PR value of using a recognizable Space Shuttle name. The Space Shuttles are far more famous than the Constellation, which might not even sound like a "real" starship name to most folks. Not aggressive enough. A constellation just sits there. Better to have a name that suggests some kind of motivation or activity - Enterprise, Voyager or (most aggressively) Defiant. I'd go for a name like Discovery or Endeavor. Challenger would be the best of all except for the tragic overtones. :(

Rather than worry about canon, which doesn't even need to apply, the show producers should worry about whether a show about a guy named Decker and a ship named Constellation would attract an audience, vs a different name for either or both. First off, we need big numbers for the premiere episode to fend off the inevitable second episode 50% drop which seems to happen to all sci fi series. For that to happen to a series that is expensive to produce could be fatal.

I'd write up a long list of alternatives all the important names - lead character and ship name included - and focus group them extensively with non-Trek fans who would consider watching a space opera series, with particular regard to the answers of those who like space opera but consider Trek boring or passe.

I understand what Temis' point was but I think she was failing to understand the concept that the OP came up with. If another Captain and ship is used then we might as well toss out what the first poster suggested.

I don't think the OP's concept has more or less chance of being successful than any other random idea that is thrown around here on a regular basis. I'm talking about the elements that need to be considered in order to make the show successful. And by far the most important consideration is this:
Focus on creating a compelling show that will be convince CBS to produce it.
Nobody has ever come up with that compelling element. It could be as simple as one sentence, or maybe it simply doesn't exist. But I poke my nose into every thread on the off chance that somebody has finally thought of it.

Oh PS, the idea of having the series end already be determined, "everybody dies," is unlikely to make CBS happy or even be workable. For starters, what if it's a huge hit and they want more than five years? What if some of the characters are so popular, CBS wants them for a spinoff series, and nixes them getting killed off? What if they cancel the series abruptly before anyone has time to make the planned ending? What if CBS likes the show but fires the showrunner midstream for whatever reason and the new guy decides on a different ending? What if the audience figures out the ending (if it's a remake of a TOS show, that would be obvious) and they decide to stop watching because they don't want to get attached to characters that are just going to die anyway, killing the ratings and getting the show cancelled prematurely?
 
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My idea for a Constellation series came about when I first heard some of the rumors being thrown around for J.J. Abrams second Trek movie. Some were saying that they wanted a Khan sequel. I was completely against anything that we've already seen before.

But I got to thinking that IF they were to re-use an idea from TOS, The Doomsday Machine was one of my favorite episodes and I wondered how a new version of it might make an interesting movie.

When the talk about a new series started, I took the idea a step further and thought that instead of a Kirk/Enterprise series, maybe they could do one of the Constellation with the series finale resulting in a remake of TDM. The destruction of the ship and crew would be a different ending than any previous Trek series. Of course, nobody had to be tipped off about it, since it was in the alternate timeline, nobody really needed to know anything about the season finale.

I would also change it so that if the Constellation was destroyed and the crew was lost, it would not be exactly like the TOS episode. I would find a more heroic way for them do die.

I could see it go in another direction also, the Enterprise comes to the rescue and it's destroyed instead of the Constellation (Kirk and crew survives though). I would change it enough so that those familiar with TDM may THINK they know what happens but surprise them instead.

I didn't think that there would be a new Kirk/Enterprise series while the movies are still being filmed so a new series about a different ship would seem to work.
 
^ I'm just being realistic. Each series since TNG has had fewer and fewer viewers. There are now no big space operas on any of the major channnels. And so far, the JJ-movie verse is doing very nicely thank you. Why would they want to bring Trek back to tv?

And I'm great fun at parties.
 
^ I'm just being realistic. Each series since TNG has had fewer and fewer viewers.

They had too many Trek series on at the same time. They should have spaced them out further (time wise) and made people hungry for it instead of milking the cow dry.

I think the writers also ran out of ideas.
 
I've often stated that I think Paramount should have waited a year before launching "Enterprise" after "Voyager" ended. That way they could have let Braga and Berman develop the series properly and build up hype amongst the fans. I remember interest but I don't remember that much hype for "Enterprise". I think most fans were bitching about "Endgame" still lol.
 
If they are smart, they will tie the franchise back into the original timeline with a Spock gone bad plot for the next movie, sort of like nu-coke, unless they feel they are drawing in more viewers to sadistically see how far they will go in destroying and torturing it as the train wreck that it and the novels have become.
As for now, they are pulling in those who have an instinctual yet misdirected need to protect it.
Tying it into a single episode of TOS' first season would also be a good idea for a tv spin off like finding out Kirk or Spock or both are telepathic Talosian illusions themselves as well. A new series would have to be in it's own seperate and distinguishable continuity, possibly a radical departure, even, in format and formula, and be virtually unrecognizable and unfamiliar to Star Trek yet be called Star Trek. Merging it with the concept from 2001 a Space Odessy would be cool. The Search for David Bowman or Will Decker or even Gary Mitchell, with some sort of wicked concept that turns it on it's head as in a mystery reality universe within a mystery reality universe whether they be alternates or not but be some sort of centralized superimposed mystery that everything hinges on whether it be personal or universal and objective and with an immediate concern and dilemma to Earth itself.
Grossly distorting it is a gimmick that can only go so far. So far, it is is certainly farther than I'm willing to go to go to see it. That's for sure.

I'm thinking that that Medusan in 'Is There no Truth in Beauty' affected him more than he realized (being the sell out that he later became, that is).
 
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