Nu!Trek and Romulan War

[Jeyl]

Khan says that Marcus scoured the universe looking for anything that would help him fight his war, more or less. But was it the Klingons he was really planning on fighting?

Khan says that they scoured space AFTER the destruction of Vulcan, so maybe Nero was secretly a Klingon after all.

 

[Praetor]

Thank you Jeyl, I wasn't sure whether I remembered that correctly. So Marcus is probably gunning for his war all along, but the loss of Vulcan gives him what he needs to ramp up. Makes sense.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Romulans would be more of a threat than ever before. Do consider that they are a aggressive arrogant race to begin with: when word has reached their planet that their sun is going to go super nova, the campaign for expansion has switched from ego tripping careers to a necessity for survival of the Romulan Empire.

I'm still kind of dumbfounded as to why STID completely shelved the Romulans even though all the problems in this movie was a direct response to a catastrophic Romulan attack. I know Nero said he didn't speak for the Empire, but the Klingons have never destroyed an entire planet before, and they were also attacked by the Romulans in the same movie. So to shift the focus to the Klingons and ONLY the Klingons seems really out of place.

Because at this point in history the Klingon Empire is CONSIDERABLY more powerful than the Romulans, who never demonstrated any expansionist tendencies in TOS and were, at the time, a race of paranoid autocrats who jealously guarded their borders against any intrusion (basically, space North Korea).

Thank you Jeyl, I wasn't sure whether I remembered that correctly. So Marcus is probably gunning for his war all along, but the loss of Vulcan gives him what he needs to ramp up. Makes sense.

Makes ALOT of sense considering what a snaky bastard Marcus turned out to be; he probably got Starfleet to approve some of his weapons projects by playing the "Romulans are after us" card when he meant to use them on the Klingons all along.

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Perhaps the refit into an "almost totally new" and more powerful Enterprise in TMP? Or development of the USS Excelsior?

That's a giant perhaps, especially considering that neither of these appeared to give Starfleet any real improvement in anti-Amoeba or anti-DDM capabilities...

Starfleet lost four different ships to these assorted space monsters, all for different reasons; that's quite a lot of ground to cover. One of the things that would need to be improved would be newer and more advanced science labs and equipment to help starships [tech] their way out of tight spots; better sensors, better computers, more and better specialists, better fabrication equipment and more of it.

Contrast with the reaction to the loss of the Kelvin: "It's a good thing Kelvin had an assload of warp-capable shuttles on board or else the entire crew would have been screwed... hey, let's make sure that all of our ships have room for an assload of shuttles from now on."

 

[Timo]

Yeah... Although that's just the sort of generic development we'd expect anyway: big shuttlebays in big ships with big guns and room for big labs.

...One thing I could see Starfleet doing as a response to the Space Amoeba is the creation of antimatter-laden flying bombs that look a bit like a big submarine flanked by two smaller ones. Not much good against a maneuvering enemy, or an enemy that can fire back, but really the perfect thing to give indigestion to a giant space mollusk that is interested in your star system in the culinary sense!

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Therin of Andor]

Section 31 and certian high-level Starfleet and Federation officials probably knew what Romulans looked like during the original war. (The "Star Trek: Federation" book speculates that this was intentionally kept secret so as to not disrupt the burgeoning alliance between Earth and Vulcan.)

The 1988 novel, "Final Frontier" by Diane Carey, establishes that people like George Kirk Sr, Captain Robert April and Dr Sarah Poole (later Mrs April) know what Romulans look like, and they agree to keep the information out of official records.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Final_Frontier_(novel)

 

[Timo]

In the mid-23rd century, the fact that Romulans are Vulcans would probably no longer have fatal consequences to the human-Vulcan alliance. However, the fact that this fact had been kept secret could now collapse governments... I really wonder how the "leak" was handled in the two timelines.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Nerys Myk]

Vulcan Ambassador " We are shocked, shocked to discover that the Romulans are our long lost cousins. Shocked.

No questions."

(turns and leaves)

 

[Kevman7987]

In the mid-23rd century, the fact that Romulans are Vulcans would probably no longer have fatal consequences to the human-Vulcan alliance. However, the fact that this fact had been kept secret could now collapse governments... I really wonder how the "leak" was handled in the two timelines.

Timo Saloniemi

Vulcan Ambassador " We are shocked, shocked to discover that the Romulans are our long lost cousins. Shocked.

No questions."

(turns and leaves)

I'd bet the Andorians would have a field day with the reveal.