Novel continuity in 2387

[Enterprise1701]

Not sure if this has already been answered somewhere or not, but what are Pocket Books' plans for Star Trek novels when they reach 2387 in-universe? Now we're at 2385 with The Fall. I don't see how they could they could directly connect the Countdown/Abramsverse continuity with the modern novel continuity. Will Pocket Books make a different version of the Hobus supernova?

 

[Thrawn]

Yes, there's nothing saying that the novels have to match the comics. Aside from that, we don't know anything yet.

 

[tomswift2002]

Will Pocket Books make a different version of the Hobus supernova?

Pocket will not be able to alter the supernova (and I believe the name Hobus actually came from the comic, so I don't know if that will actually stay the same) and the fact that both Spock's ship and the Narada were pulled through, and that Romulus and Remus were destroyed, since it is canon, and is currently the last bit of detail that we know of about the Prime universe (after Endgame, & Star Trek: Nemesis).

 

[Enterprise1701]

Do you suppose Pocket Books will come up with something better than "Oh a faraway star is going to go supernova! We already know ahead of time that it's going to rupture subspace and travel impossibly far even though we don't know about the Iconians!"

Plus, Countdown is clearly incompatible with Cold Equations and Typhon Pact regarding Data's return and Spock's new career path.

 

[F. King Daniel]

The STO version of the Iconians definitely won't appear. In the novelverse, they're completely different (see: Gateways)

The novels will remain consistent with what was established in Star Trek (2009) but not Countdown or anything in Star Trek Online.

But as to whether the supernova will be featured or skipped over, that's uncertain. Four novels set in the new movie continuity were written but then suddenly cancelled in 2010. Bad Robot seem very protective of their Trek, and a novel based entirely on an important part of their movie (irrespective of which timeline it took place in, it's their creation) may lead to further trouble. We'll see.

 

[The Wormhole]

Most likely the destruction of Romulus will be an after the fact mention. "The Typhon Pact is still coping after the destruction of Romulus." That sort of thing.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

^ Everything's coming up Breen!

 

[Enterprise1701]

So there's been nothing officially from Pocket about plans for 2387. Gotcha.

 

[tomswift2002]

Most likely the destruction of Romulus will be an after the fact mention. "The Typhon Pact is still coping after the destruction of Romulus." That sort of thing.

I don't think it'll be much of an afterthought. When I think of the recent Typhon Pact novels (I think it was in "Cold Equations 2" where President Bacco suggested that the Gorn side with the Romulans to become stronger) the destruction of Romulus & Remus is going weaken the Romulan Empire quite a bit. Imagine what would happen if, all of sudden, Washington, D.C., was hit by a massive tidal surge that caused Washington to sink beneath the ocean. Sure there would be some sort of government put in place quickly, but until a new place of government was set up, and a more formal government was put into place, there would be quite the power vacuum, not just in the US, but in the UN, NATO, etc. I would assume that the same would go for the Romulan Empire and the Typhon Pact.

 

[Enterprise1701]

I hope Federation-Klingon hostilities don't begin anew as they did in the "All Good Things..." future and in Star Trek Online.

 

[Skywalker]

I hope Federation-Klingon hostilities don't begin anew as they did in the "All Good Things..." future and in Star Trek Online.

I don't think they will. Or, at least, I don't envision all of the Klingon Empire becoming hostile with the Federation again, as STO lazily suggests. I suppose it's possible a faction of the empire could decide to try and take advantage of the power vacuum.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

I hope Federation-Klingon hostilities don't begin anew as they did in the "All Good Things..." future and in Star Trek Online.

I don't think they will. Or, at least, I don't envision all of the Klingon Empire becoming hostile with the Federation again, as STO lazily suggests. I suppose it's possible a faction of the empire could decide to try and take advantage of the power vacuum.

Having the Klingon Empire and the UFP as enemies again is a great hook for a game, a terrible idea for the novels. What works for one just won't work for the other.

 

[Enterprise1701]

On the other hand though, one of the few things I like about Star Trek Online is how it explained the Hobus Supernova and its unusual characteristics as the result of renegade Romulans working for the Iconians.

 

[Enterpriserules]

I think the novels with stick only with what is onscreen. Data is already on a course that is much different than the comics, not to mention Worf and Picard. Personally this is fine with me, I was not a fan of Countdown at all.

 

[Enterprise1701]

I think the novels with stick only with what is onscreen. Data is already on a course that is much different than the comics, not to mention Worf and Picard. Personally this is fine with me, I was not a fan of Countdown at all.

That's true. Countdown was too lacking, not sensical enough, and it wasn't even completely consistent with Star Trek 2009.

 

[Enterpriserules]

^ No it wasn't. I feel the books are doing a much better job with the characters (even though I am still not sure what I think about Data's place so far or Sisko's)

 

[F. King Daniel]

In fairness to the Countdown comic, it was written prior to the mind meld scenes in the movie being finalized. According to the commentary, JJ was fiddling with it two weeks prior to the premiere.

It's not like the novelverse is 100% consistent with canon, either.

 

[Enterprise1701]

Do you guys suppose that in order for Spock Prime to provide Abramsverse Scotty the transwarp beaming equation, Scotty Prime has to use it to return to the Federation from wherever he miraculously disappeared to at the end of Indistinguishable From Magic?

 

[F. King Daniel]

The implication in IFM was that Scotty figured out the transwarp beaming equation right at the end, and escaped with it. He presumably has to get back at some point to tell Spock.

Unfortunately though, it seems IFM has been swept under the rug and probably won't be followed up on - which is kinda silly, since he could rematerialize anywhere.

 

[Christopher]

I always figured "transwarp beaming" was just another name for the subspace transporter technology used by DaiMon Bok in TNG: "Bloodlines." It doesn't make sense for Scotty to have to "discover" a means of interstellar beaming when one already canonically existed no later than 2370.