I was watching a show from season one called Move along home. the Wadie or waddie? was teaching Quark a lession about cheating, anyway i noticed that the waddie ship looked a lot like the Defiant at least it did to me.I wonder if that model was the brainstorm for the Defiant does anyone know?
noticed something today watching DS9
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Didn't look like the Defiant to me.
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Wadi-Bajoran-Trill_starship.jpg
I think thats a basic model they used a lot in TNG. That ship is triangular, the Defiant is more oval/rectangular
Didn't look like it either to me.
Sorry, all I noticed about this episode was that it sucked.
Seriously, isn't this the one that's usually cited as the worst DS9 episode ever?
Seriously, isn't this the one that's usually cited as the worst DS9 episode ever?
You are definitely not alone: Whenever I see this ship I'm thinking "Defiant!" I guess it's the bridge module that makes them look somewhat similar.
And the simple explanation to that is...
The Defiant wasn't originally designed to be a Federation warship. Rather, when the series needed a new hero ship, Jim Martin dug up some of his old drawings on a ragtag Bajoran freighter, which he had deliberately designed to feature detail reminiscent of the Wadi ship, including the big ring on top and the wedgelike bow.
http://www.starshipdatalink.net/art/images/dd-4.jpg
In the above pic, the freighter has already gained some extra greeblies in place of the dorsal ring, but will soon regain it in these reworkings:
http://www.starshipdatalink.net/art/images/dd-7.gif
http://www.starshipdatalink.net/art/images/dd-8.gif
The ring detail is also prominent in the Cardassian freighter/patrol ship design from "Profit and Loss" and "Tribunal", later to become the Hideki class small warship. One is prompted to speculate that the ring is typical of Cardassian ship design, and that the Wadi vessel which subsequently is seen several times in Bajoran hands and once in the hands of the Xepolite allies of the Cardassians is in fact a Cardassian design as well. That would make sense, sort of: Bajorans might have gotten most of their post-occupation ships by taking over materiél left behind by the Cardassians. Their triangular ships introduced in "Past Prologue" are seen in Cardassian use, too...
In-universe, the only mystery is how the Gamma Quadrant Wadi could have obtained a Cardassian or Bajoran vessel. But I guess we could argue that the very fact they contacted Bajorans is related to Bajorans going to them on a Bajoran ship and inviting them aboard. That is, the Wadi could be passengers on that ship, rather than crew.
Timo Saloniemi
The Defiant wasn't originally designed to be a Federation warship. Rather, when the series needed a new hero ship, Jim Martin dug up some of his old drawings on a ragtag Bajoran freighter, which he had deliberately designed to feature detail reminiscent of the Wadi ship, including the big ring on top and the wedgelike bow.
http://www.starshipdatalink.net/art/images/dd-4.jpg
In the above pic, the freighter has already gained some extra greeblies in place of the dorsal ring, but will soon regain it in these reworkings:
http://www.starshipdatalink.net/art/images/dd-7.gif
http://www.starshipdatalink.net/art/images/dd-8.gif
The ring detail is also prominent in the Cardassian freighter/patrol ship design from "Profit and Loss" and "Tribunal", later to become the Hideki class small warship. One is prompted to speculate that the ring is typical of Cardassian ship design, and that the Wadi vessel which subsequently is seen several times in Bajoran hands and once in the hands of the Xepolite allies of the Cardassians is in fact a Cardassian design as well. That would make sense, sort of: Bajorans might have gotten most of their post-occupation ships by taking over materiél left behind by the Cardassians. Their triangular ships introduced in "Past Prologue" are seen in Cardassian use, too...
In-universe, the only mystery is how the Gamma Quadrant Wadi could have obtained a Cardassian or Bajoran vessel. But I guess we could argue that the very fact they contacted Bajorans is related to Bajorans going to them on a Bajoran ship and inviting them aboard. That is, the Wadi could be passengers on that ship, rather than crew.
Timo Saloniemi
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