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No love from the media. (Spoilers for "Before Dishonor")

Are you seriously going to argue that the death of a character on a low-rated TV series that was more famous for starring Jeri Ryan's breasts than it was for anything else is really comparable to the deaths of a supporting character from one of the most popular film series of all time or to the deaths of iconic superheros who have been around and been popular for the better part of the 20th Century?

Nah, not really. Just making coversation is all. And I still would have expected something, however small. What made think of this is wondering what Mulgrew would think of the story.
 
I always took a cynical view of the killing of Chewbacca myself. It gives the people producing the Star Wars novels the opportunity to create the illusion of change while simultaneously getting rid of a character who's extremely difficult to write properly in prose. :)

I've always found the Star Wars books very hard work - they just seem to blur into each other - it's now 50,60 years after ROTJ and everyone's still fighting?
 
Star Wars is more of a global phemonenon, mostly because it is such a visual form.

Star Trek is as global as Star Wars, and here in Australia we had/have many more large Star Trek clubs and, as far as I know, only the one large Star Wars group. With TOS in syndication/repeat all over the world, and DVDs available of all the series and movies, for over 40 years, its saturation is pretty deep.
 
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I always took a cynical view of the killing of Chewbacca myself. It gives the people producing the Star Wars novels the opportunity to create the illusion of change while simultaneously getting rid of a character who's extremely difficult to write properly in prose. :)

That's hilarious! Never thought of that.

(Must be why we've never had a series of "Gem" spin-offs from "The Empath" of TOS.)
 
I always took a cynical view of the killing of Chewbacca myself. It gives the people producing the Star Wars novels the opportunity to create the illusion of change while simultaneously getting rid of a character who's extremely difficult to write properly in prose. :)
I think one of the brains behind it once admitted as much that that was true. Chewbacca had hardly contributed to the novel line up to that point-- which was the reason I didn't really felt the universe was any more "unsafe" for the characters after Vector Prime. I mean, they wouldn't kill off anyone actually important, now would they? And then came Star by Star...
 
Star Trek is definitely as global as Star Wars, all you need to do to see that is look at the locations of some of the people who post here.
 
Star Trek is definitely as global as Star Wars, all you need to do to see that is look at the locations of some of the people who post here.
While I'd rather spork my eyes out than get into any kind of Star Trek vs. Star Wars debate, I have to point out that you're talking about the range of fandom, while the discussion is about the kind of mainstream popularity that would lead to major press coverage. Anything can build up a couple dozen fans on every continent; that's not worth much.
 
^ I do. I also remember poor Bob Salvatore getting death threats. Fun times. :rolleyes:
 
Wow, really? I know some people take their sci fi seriously, but that's getting kinda scary.
 
"It's a fond legend of fandom that if an SF editor got his hands on the Old and New Testaments, they'd be published as War God of Israel and The Thing With Three Souls."
JoeZhang, dude, your signature's been bugging me for days. :)

It's a bit of a misquote. As it's not really a fond legend.

It was Terry Carr who said it. His quote was that if Donald Wollheim published the Bible as an Ace Double, then the two Testaments would be renamed "War God of Israel" and "The Thing With Three Souls." (Though sometimes "War God" is given as "Master of Chaos." As in this New York Times article on Philip K. Dick.)

And I'll leave the theology alone. One of the titles is wrong, but that's par for the course with an Ace Double. :)
 
"It's a fond legend of fandom that if an SF editor got his hands on the Old and New Testaments, they'd be published as War God of Israel and The Thing With Three Souls."
JoeZhang, dude, your signature's been bugging me for days. :)

It's a bit of a misquote. As it's not really a fond legend.

It was Terry Carr who said it. His quote was that if Donald Wollheim published the Bible as an Ace Double, then the two Testaments would be renamed "War God of Israel" and "The Thing With Three Souls." (Though sometimes "War God" is given as "Master of Chaos." As in this New York Times article on Philip K. Dick.)

And I'll leave the theology alone. One of the titles is wrong, but that's par for the course with an Ace Double. :)

That jesus sucks cocks in hell - well we all know that - I'll amend the rest.
 
When the SW books killed Chewbacca, I remember all sorts of news coverage.

I don't :confused:

i don't either. in fact i didn't even know he died in the books until it was mentioned in this thread. where are the spoiler tags when you need them? :lol:
Sorry about the spoiler, but the book came out almost nine years ago.:alienblush:

As for the media coverage, I remember seeing it mentioned on several news channels, local, network and cable, and mentions in the local newspapers.

Peter Mayhew even made a statement saying words to the effect of, "Darth Vader's been dead for 15 years, and it hasn't affected his popularity one bit!" :lol:
 
Star Wars is more of a global phemonenon, mostly because it is such a visual form.

Star Trek is as global as Star Wars, and here in Australia we had/have many more large Star Trek clubs and, as far as I know, only the one large Star Wars group. With TOS in syndication/repeat all over the world, and DVDs available of all the series and movies, for over 40 years, its saturation is pretty deep.

If you're going to quote me, quote my whole post which has a different context.

Star Wars is more of a global phemonenon, mostly because it is such a visual form. In a way it transcends language. Not so much Star Trek which is a more verbal piece. If we're comparing the two, then in English territories they will carry equal weight, but in non-English territories, while 'May The Force Be With You' and 'Beam Me Up' will be equally well recognised, more people will have seen Star Wars.

That whole bit about English speaking territories and visual and verbal artforms.

Of course that pidgin you speak Down Under barely qualifies as English :p

"Toss a couple of dingoes on the barbie mate!"
 
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