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No duplicate actors!!

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Grant

Commodore
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Tried a long while back but since a lot of folks here are vintage TV fans I'll try it again with maybe better results.
Let's say they hard an unbreakable rule about reusing actors on TOS.
So substitute a working actor from the 66-69 era to fill in the role that had been taken by an actor who had appeared before. Here's my choices. I have only listed roles that I consider substantial and not bits parts.

Dr. Severin -- Martin Landau
Miranda Jones -- Hazel Court
Commodore Wesley -- Earl Holliman
Koloth -- Roddy McDowell (turnabout is fair play)
Old Man -- Burt Mustin (For the World is Hollow)
Philana -- Anne Francis
Captain Tracey -- Lee Marvin
Sarek -- Joseh Wiseman
Stonn -- James Shigeta
Mr. Atoz -- Burgess Meredith
Jaris -- John Carradine
Tommy Starnes -- Billy Mumy

Any ideas? Feel free to include choices for other duplicate roles in addition to your choices for the above.
 
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Grant said:
Captain Tracey -- Lee Marvin
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Hell, yeah!!!! If they could afford him.....

Jaime Finney: Angela Cartwright
Ben Finney: Marlon Brando
Tommy Starnes: Kurt Russell
DEADLY YEARS's Alvin: Jonathan Harris
Loskene: voice of Bob May
Mira Romaine: Raquel Welch
Lethe: Nancy Kulp
Mallory: Jack Nicholson
Rojan: see directly above.
Petri: Lou Wagner
Hengist: Telly Savalas
Commodore Decker: John Wayne
James T. Kirk: Russ Tamblyn
 
Yeah, they are just wish lists, not necessarily realistic lists. Everybody on my list had done TV in the 60s.
 
Well he did two episodes of the Twilight Zone. I doubt he would have done Trek after doing Dirty Dozen, but as I said a wish list. Robert Duvall was doing TV all thru the 60s as well. He would have been great in Trek -- not sure what role he might have gotten.
 
Grant said:
Let's say they hard an unbreakable rule about reusing actors on TOS.
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As long as we're speaking hypothetically, let's say that all TV series had exactly the same rule regarding casting.

Wouldn't it be likely, in that case, that most of the actors on your list of substitutes would have been considerably less well-known than they in fact were at the time, and that many of them would long before have been forced to find other work outside the entertainment industry?

Actors playing more than one role (where have I heard that idea expressed before?) was a standard part of casting for television at that time, and one of the only places I've ever heard anyone objecting to seeing any particular actor appearing more than once during the complete run of the series is in discussions of Star Trek TOS. Why is this considered a problem?
 
Grant said:
Well he did two episodes of the Twilight Zone. I doubt he would have done Trek after doing Dirty Dozen, but as I said a wish list. Robert Duvall was doing TV all thru the 60s as well. He would have been great in Trek -- not sure what role he might have gotten.
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Sam Cogley, perhaps. Or a MUDD'S WOMEN miner. Or the Robot Brownie.
 
Jon Lormer did three episodes: The Cage, Return of the Archons, and For the World is Hollow, so he would need two replacements. Casting has them under G for Geezers.
 
Very true about Lormer's 2nd replacement. Combing my memory for 1960s geezers......

Cyril Delavanti was a solid geezer. Not a Mustin class geezer of course. Also, Vaughn Taylor could have pulled off Tamar as well.
Tamar was a gentle man so Charles Lane is out -- he was the go-to "angry geezer." He could have been the replacement for Morgan Farley's 2nd episode as the "Yang scholar". In fact, he would have been a better Hacom than Farley was -- nobody could out angry Lane.
 
Grant said:
Well he did two episodes of the Twilight Zone. I doubt he would have done Trek after doing Dirty Dozen, but as I said a wish list. Robert Duvall was doing TV all thru the 60s as well. He would have been great in Trek -- not sure what role he might have gotten.
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I'd see him as a perfect Landru.
 
I would've picked Martin Landau as Serek, but then again maybe better to reverse the roles and have Landau as the Romulan captain of the "Praetor's Pride" from BOT, and keep Mark Leonard as Serek?
 
Grant said:
Just realized Barrett has to go because of her being "Number One" -- who for Chapel....

Lynn Loring
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If Barrett was done after "The Cage," they would never have needed a recurring nurse. That role was created to give the boss's wife a job. "The network wants her gone? Fine, we'll hide her under a wig and bill her under a new name."
 
Now, do we have to resolve the duplication (heh, sounds like a "What Are Little Girls Made Of?" plot twist) by replacing the actor the second time s/he appeared, or can we make a substitution for the first appearance? Because I think Strother Martin would have made a great Landru, and then Charles Macaulay still could have done his superb turn as Jaris.
 
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Because I think Strother Martin would have made a great Landru, and then Charles Macaulay still could have done his superb turn as Jaris.
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I think it would have been amazing if Strother Martin had played Landru dead serious, but with his menacing, super-Southern hillbilly drawl. "What we've got here... is a failure to join the Body."
 
Is there anywhere to put in Adam West?
TIN_MAN said:
I would've picked Martin Landau as Serek, but then again maybe better to reverse the roles and have Landau as the Romulan captain of the "Praetor's Pride" from BOT, and keep Mark Leonard as Serek?
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Or you have them the same character? Wouldn't that spice things up.
 
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