Nimoy: TMP Wasn?t Really A Trek Movie

[Psion]

None of the trek movies were really a trek movie.

Master and Commander was.

I'm amazed that other people see this. I wasn't interested in the film, but my wife was. I wandered through the living room during an early scene and slowed to a stop. Watched a few minutes ... then sat down and watched the rest.

"This reminds me of Star Trek," I said to my missus. She rolled her eyes and humored me since I was watching her crappy film with her.

 

[Tallguy]

"This reminds me of Star Trek," I said to my missus. She rolled her eyes and humored me since I was watching her crappy film with her.

Read the books. It's the Star Trek that never was. Sure you could read the Hornblower novels as well, but the Aubrey books have the whole Kirk / Spock thing going.

 

[Doug Otte]

None of the trek movies were really a trek movie.

Master and Commander was.

I'm amazed that other people see this. I wasn't interested in the film, but my wife was. I wandered through the living room during an early scene and slowed to a stop. Watched a few minutes ... then sat down and watched the rest.

"This reminds me of Star Trek," I said to my missus. She rolled her eyes and humored me since I was watching her crappy film with her.

I agree that it's very much like a Trek film, but it's not "crappy." It's a very well-written, acted, filmed, and scored movie. It seemed to show what life was like on a ship during that era. The attention to detail was fascinating. And, it was also a great adventure.

Doug

 

[Psion]

Master and Commander was.

I'm amazed that other people see this. I wasn't interested in the film, but my wife was. I wandered through the living room during an early scene and slowed to a stop. Watched a few minutes ... then sat down and watched the rest.

"This reminds me of Star Trek," I said to my missus. She rolled her eyes and humored me since I was watching her crappy film with her.

I agree that it's very much like a Trek film, but it's not "crappy." It's a very well-written, acted, filmed, and scored movie. It seemed to show what life was like on a ship during that era. The attention to detail was fascinating. And, it was also a great adventure.

Doug

I was speaking sardonically. From the context you can see that I clearly found the film engrossing.

 

[Doug Otte]

I'm amazed that other people see this. I wasn't interested in the film, but my wife was. I wandered through the living room during an early scene and slowed to a stop. Watched a few minutes ... then sat down and watched the rest.

"This reminds me of Star Trek," I said to my missus. She rolled her eyes and humored me since I was watching her crappy film with her.

I agree that it's very much like a Trek film, but it's not "crappy." It's a very well-written, acted, filmed, and scored movie. It seemed to show what life was like on a ship during that era. The attention to detail was fascinating. And, it was also a great adventure.

Doug

I was speaking sardonically. From the context you can see that I clearly found the film engrossing.

Sorry, now I get it. We can't admit to enjoying what our wives enjoy (and vice versa), can we?

Doug

 

[Psion]

I agree that it's very much like a Trek film, but it's not "crappy." It's a very well-written, acted, filmed, and scored movie. It seemed to show what life was like on a ship during that era. The attention to detail was fascinating. And, it was also a great adventure.

Doug

I was speaking sardonically. From the context you can see that I clearly found the film engrossing.

Sorry, now I get it. We can't admit to enjoying what our wives enjoy (and vice versa), can we?

Doug

Not in public. And certainly not where she might see!

 

[Bubbles McGee]

Taking a shot at Shatner's eulogy speech, not cool! That was one of the best parts of TWOK. I think Nimoy is still sore at the fact that he got paid peanuts compared to Shatner during the original TV series.

Lenny, Landau and a host of others could have done your role, but Shatner is a true original.

 

[Maurice]

Taking a shot at Shatner's eulogy speech, not cool! That was one of the best parts of TWOK. I think Nimoy is still sore at the fact that he got paid peanuts compared to Shatner during the original TV series.

Lenny, Landau and a host of others could have done your role, but Shatner is a true original.

What are you on about?

 

[Valin]

It also gave us the 1701 refit- still the most beautiful Trek ship ever to hit the screen.

It is also my favorite space ship of any movie (Trek or otherwise). It seems the most futuristic, yet also the most believable as a working , crewed starship.

 

[Bubbles McGee]

Taking a shot at Shatner's eulogy speech, not cool! That was one of the best parts of TWOK. I think Nimoy is still sore at the fact that he got paid peanuts compared to Shatner during the original TV series.

Lenny, Landau and a host of others could have done your role, but Shatner is a true original.

What are you on about?

I just don't think its cool for Nimoy to take a shot at that great scene by Shatner. I mean, it was funny when Stewie did it, but I sensed a note of derision in Nimoy's "impersonation." The other bits of my comments are references to something I read in the Justman/Solow book.

 

[CoveTom]

Taking a shot at Shatner's eulogy speech, not cool! That was one of the best parts of TWOK. I think Nimoy is still sore at the fact that he got paid peanuts compared to Shatner during the original TV series.

Lenny, Landau and a host of others could have done your role, but Shatner is a true original.

What are you on about?

I just don't think its cool for Nimoy to take a shot at that great scene by Shatner. I mean, it was funny when Stewie did it, but I sensed a note of derision in Nimoy's "impersonation."

I'm confused. When did Nimoy take a shot at Shatner's performance in that scene?

 

[1001001]

^ Sorry about the edit note. My control panel went haywire for a second!



Anyway...

Is he referring to the recent interview where Nimoy did his impression of that scene?


http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/05/23/star-trek-leonard-nimoys-best-william-shatner-impression/


If so, I thought it was good natured and funny. Nimoy and Shatner have been close friends for decades. I hardly think Nimoy just now decided to derisively mock him.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

What does it matter? Shatner was rather ridiculous in that scene - all the facial contortions around getting the word "human" out. Face acting, whoa!

Meyer said once that he often had to do take after take with Shatner to wear him down to the point that he'd just say the words. He should have done a few more takes on that scene.

 

[Bubbles McGee]

I never understood why so many feel the need to take shots at Shatner's acting style, especially ST fans! Shatner made that character what it is in good part due to his acting style. He is the first and only real captain that ship has ever had. I think Nimoy should stick to his photography that no one really cares about and leave the legendary acting to the legendary actors.

Any half-decent actor can walk around with pointed ears, speak in a stoic manner and neck-pinch the bad guy of the week. Shatner's Kirk made that show roll!

 

[Use of Time]

I never understood why so many feel the need to take shots at Shatner's acting style, especially ST fans! Shatner made that character what it is in good part due to his acting style. He is the first and only real captain that ship has ever had. I think Nimoy should stick to his photography that no one really cares about and leave the legendary acting to the legendary actors.

Any half-decent actor can walk around with pointed ears, speak in a stoic manner and neck-pinch the bad guy of the week. Shatner's Kirk made that show roll!

Tell me you really don't believe that's all there is to portraying Spock. Did you ever watch the orginial series? Shatner became a walking caricature of himself.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

I never understood why so many feel the need to take shots at Shatner's acting style...

Because he's a ham and he's funny.

I've never understood how so many Trek fans, who consider themselves intelligent, can nonetheless convince themselves that the Shat gets made fun of because there exists some vast bitter conspiracy against him throughout the world rather than because of the self-evident truth: people mock him because he's mock-worthy.

People also love him, because he's charming and canny enough to have made a few pennies by mocking himself.

 

[Greg Cox]

It's funny. I was reading an old interview with Nichelle Nichols yesterday and she said the exact same thing: TMP was a good movie, but it wasn't a STAR TREK movie.

 

[Use of Time]

I think Legion is pretty much spot on. I've seen imitations of Shatner's acting style in various forms of main stream media for years now. We see that because there is a trend for a bit of "over-acting" on the part of Shatner. That being said he is a genuinely funny person and quite good in some comedic roles I've seen him portray. The mocking you see is not hateful but more of an affectionate ribbing.

 

[Warped9]

Shatner has a quality that many actors would kill for: he's distinctive. That doesn't sit well with some particularly if some prefer a more low key and often not very memorable acting style. If Star Trek hadn't made him well known he might have gone on to be a character actor.

Say what you want, but when Kirk is on the screen he's da man and we love him for it.

 

[Use of Time]

Very true, It's also important to put his acting style in context with the time period of the 60's. Most acting in that time period was a little bit more over the top. Its not exactly "method" acting but it got the job done and he really did create a dominate screen presence.