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Nichols's MLK story - latest re-telling

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I also have very mild episodes. Luckily it's not a problem, but I have no doubt that extreme cases could produce extreme psychological and behavioral problems. My problem is not from anyone incident, but repeated bouts of ear disease and (I suspect) years of headphone use in radio and of course listening to Led Zeppelin and Moody Blues at high levels. It's an affliction that no one deserves.
 
DakotaSmith said:
One popular theory suggests that tinnitus may also be caused not by a loud noise but by a constant sound at a specific frequency -- regardless of amplitude.

It's actually fascinating, because it gets into what your brain is doing. Everybody's experienced it -- we think of them as background sounds: birds, traffic, wind, anything that produces a sound you hear all the time. You're not generally consciously aware of them.

The way this appears to work in your brain is that after a while, your brain starts to subconsciously generating counter-frequencies to all these background sounds.
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I never heard this before, but it's fascinating. Good luck with your experimental headphone treatment. I'd be interested to know how it goes. I'm also dealing with tinnitus and don't have any loud noise indicents, at least not in the last 25 years.

Okay, my wife's nagging. Hmmm, maybe that's why my brain put out the counter frequency...
 
I have tinnitus too, and I'm not sure what caused it because I've always been careful around loud noises. I think part of it may be genetic. Maybe some people are more susceptible to it than others.
 
It's certainly possible. There are a lot of theories, ranging from the purely physical to the one I mentioned. The problem is that virtually none of them offer real treatment. As I say, I may be pointlessly killing time, but I've always kind of enjoyed looking at waveforms ... ;)

Dakota Smith
 
mb22 said:
The latest:
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertai...n_luther_king_jr_impacted_decision_to_st.html
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Ironically, I just posted this on the caption contest...

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Dr. KING: Who is this, and how did you get my Skype address?! STOP CALLING ME! <click>
 
Tee hee. This story just grows and grows. I expect to see an engraving of the Enterprise on King's tomb any day now.
 
Guys, she's 78 and lived a party lifestyle in Hollywood in the 60's - she could truly believe it happened that way after all this time.

She was a single mother relying on convention work to pay the bills. Imagine standing there with a microphone re-telling the same stuff ad nauseam for decades. Of course these old stories are going to be embellished to keep the convention bookings coming and the journos interested.

Her ever-changing story is all on the record. If she has now decided in her twilight years that she's some some civil rights traliblazer, then good luck to her. But I'm betting she would have been an inspiration to plenty of people, and she should rightfully be celebrated for it. Let her enjoy the attention.

I'd be more worried that not one journalist who has interviewed Nichols about this story over the years has ever checked their facts.
 
^^^Agree and disagree. She should be celebrated as a pioneer. One of the first Black characters (not the first, not even the first Black woman) in a fairly nonstereotypical role. So, fantastic for that.

But, big BUT, she is not a doddering old lady with memory problems. She's sharp (physically and mentally) as a tack. She is lying. Period. End of sentence. No way around it. Old versions of the story tell on her.

Agree one hundred per cent with you about journalists not checking the story.

Sir Rhosis
 
I don't know if I'd go so far as calling it lying, if only because human memory is the most unreliable repository of information on the planet. It's not difficult at all to convince oneself of something if that's what you want to do. It may have started out as embellishment, but at this point, she could very well believe every word. You don't have to be doddering to do it. She might even be mixing two events into one, which is easily done over time. Either way, a person could swear on a stack of White Castle cheeseburgers that he is telling the truth about something verbatim, but really be quite wrong.

However, the story does seem to grow into something more almost every time she tells it… So who knows? In any event, she's done a hell of a lot more for the advancement of Civil Rights than I have.
 
"Lying" implies that she's deliberately misspeaking, and memory is a very tricky thing. She doesn't have to be an Alzheimer's sufferer for her to honestly believe that she's being truthful.

Let's start from the bedrock, kids. Is there any way to confirm if there was a NAACP event in '67 that Nichelle Nichols attended? If so, was MLK in attendance?
 
Potemkin_Prod said:
Again, I find this impossible to believe. Shatner probably was never even on the set at the same time Ricardo Montalban was. They have no scenes together.
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They weren't on set together, ever, due to the nature of the script (reusing the Enterprise set as the Reliant). This story is an outright lie. Shatner actually wanted to avoid the issue and took Montalban out to dinner several times and the two got on very well by all not-Shatner-hating accounts.

Mr. Scott said:
She said that Shatner's problem is that he wants to be the star of the show and everyone else is beneath him, instead of it being an ensemble piece.
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Then she's a dumbass. Look at the credits to Star Trek, it says, oddly enough "Starring William Shatner." Go figure.
 
Navigator_NCC2120 said:
I was at a convension in the mid-to-late 1980s in Baltimore and someone asked Doohan why that scene was not in the theatrical version and that was the reason he gave.
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Which is really odd, considering that the remainder of the scene that was cut is an extended (and stilted) dialog between Kirk and McCoy - Scott's already returning to engineering.
 
The Gang of Four, in Doohan in particular, liked to blame Shatner for everything negative. As if they'd have had huge careers otherwise.

Vance said:
Then she's a dumbass. Look at the credits to Star Trek, it says, oddly enough "Starring William Shatner." Go figure.
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Much to Nimoy's disappointment back in 1968...
 
Sector 7 said:
Agreed. It is interesting to note that most of those same posters would never say such awful things to her face.
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I have, and will again given the chance. I really think that Nicelle's willful lying about this subject seriously undercuts both her credibility and the actual importance in how the Uhura character was treated and accepted on Star Trek, which really was groundbreaking for 1966.
 
Captain Robert April said:
A few historical notes, Shatner's father died during the filming of "The Devil In the Dark", his marriage started disintegrating during the third season, and, although it hasn't been confirmed, due to failing memories, I suspect that the tinnitus was the result of the explosion in the teaser for "Requiem For Methuselah", again, third season.
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Shatner and Nimoy personally both cite "Arena" for their tinnitis. Notably, the explosions that go off awfully close to them in the beginning of the episode. Given that they're the ones who were there and started suffering for it, I see no reason to correct them.
 
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