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NFL Offseason '14: Wake me up when minicamps start

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Timby

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The Seahawks (and residents of Seattle and its surrounding area) are all probably still hung over after kicking the everloving piss out of the Broncos. Good for them. Now begins our long national nightmare of no football.

Storyline items:

- Is Peyton Manning an elite quarterback? (Yes. He is.)

- Michael Vick and Josh McCown are the headliners of the free-agent class of quarterbacks.
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- Who the fuck will Joe Flacco have to throw to next season?

- Will the Seahawks repeat despite their impending salary cap hell?

- Dallas is keeping both Monte Kiffin and Rod Marinelli; how many defensive coordinators can one team have?

And others. Discuss among yourselves.
 
Can new head coach Zimmer revive the dormant franchise that is the Minnesota Vikings? Who the hell knows?
 
Post NFL Depression Syndrome has kicked in.

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It is mitigated somewhat by the absolute faith and belief that the Rams are going to win the Super Bowl next year.

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I will be interested to see what we do with that 2nd pick. We don't need a QB (at least not a 1st round QB) or a Defensive End...hopefully there's another RGIII style trade for us out there.
 
Brolan said:
Can new head coach Zimmer revive the dormant franchise that is the Minnesota Vikings? Who the hell knows?
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And how will the Vikings- a team built for playing in a dome- fare playing their home games outdoors at TCF stadium? And will the QB carousel continue?

Putting the Vikings' odds of winning the Super Bowl at 75-1 might be a tad low.
 
Which football team is going to be stupid enough to draft Johnny Football in the first round and watch him flounder and take the team down with him?

Timby said:
Will the Seahawks repeat despite their impending salary cap hell?
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Their salary cap is fine for this year. Next year, on the other hand (Richard Sherman, Earl Thomas, Russell Wilson, Russell Okung), not so much.
 
We'll see what happens.
For the Vikings, there may be some hiccups at first, but once they get used to it, playing outside should be great for them. Remember that the Seahawks used to play in the Kingdome.
 
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Their salary cap is fine for this year. Next year, on the other hand (Richard Sherman, Earl Thomas, Russell Wilson, Russell Okung), not so much.
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The Seahawks are either right up against or over the cap depending on where the 2014 number comes in, and they have decisions to make on re-signing Tate, Bennett, Hauschka, Baldwin and others. So they don't have a lot of flexibility this year and will have even less next season (Wilson is gonna get paid, holy shit). They're going to need to be very strategic in March.
 
Timby said:
- Michael Vick and Josh McCown are the headliners of the free-agent class of quarterbacks.
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Wow, that's like the one dog that has ever put me into a Vick-esque puppy-murdering rage. Damn you Nintendo. Damn you for making that contemptible hound mock me behind his shield of light gun invincibility.
 
If NFL teams can forgive players' criminal misconduct and racism, being gay won't be an obstacle to getting a contract if he's good enough imo.
Some teams might pass because of that but there's too much money at stake for all teams to pass if this guy can help them out.
 
Yeah, only destroyed his career if some shitty team takes him for PR purposes. Handful of well-run teams that could easily handle the 'distraction' and have enough presence in the locker room to keep that from getting out of control.

He's a top couple of round talent, not like he's coming out as a punter and pulled this. DE/LB and the guy can move!
 
Draft him. Sign Tebow. Make them roommates during training camp. Call up Hard Knocks. Profit.
 
Heard a good point on Sirius NFL radio this morning. Even before this announcement, he was a 4-5 round prospect. We're having a completely different conversation if he was already a 1-2 round prospect.

Teams will pass on him not because of his orientation, but because whichever team drafts him is going to by default get attention which will cause a distraction (i.e., non-traditional tv shows and magazines who don't typically talk about football will try and get interviews/articles about him). The distraction will be more of a concern than how good of a special teams player he will be (which is what he will be). Unfortunately, like all players, if he doesn't get results on special teams, he will be cut, and that will also invite media distraction.

They also said this is the same reason no one picks up Tebow as even a 3rd QB, even though it's highly likely that Tebow is one of the top NINETY available quarterbacks today.

I'm also sick of analysts talking about "the media". Since when did the media stop thinking they were part of "the media" themselves?
 
tighr said:
I'm also sick of analysts talking about "the media". Since when did the media stop thinking they were part of "the media" themselves?
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Probably a few years after Disney bought Cap Cities and ESPN gradually moved from being "a channel where dudes talk about sports" to "SPORTS ARE SERIOUS BUSINESS."
 
tighr said:
Teams will pass on him not because of his orientation, but because whichever team drafts him is going to by default get attention which will cause a distraction (i.e., non-traditional tv shows and magazines who don't typically talk about football will try and get interviews/articles about him). The distraction will be more of a concern than how good of a special teams player he will be (which is what he will be). Unfortunately, like all players, if he doesn't get results on special teams, he will be cut, and that will also invite media distraction.

They also said this is the same reason no one picks up Tebow as even a 3rd QB, even though it's highly likely that Tebow is one of the top NINETY available quarterbacks today.
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BAD teams will do exactly that, because they're one media circus away from imploding. Good teams could figure out a way to handle it.

Just as a direct response to your last bit, the Patriots DID pick up Tebow as a 3rd QB for at least the pre-season. Did the media thing for a couple days, then calmed down. And they cut him because he wasn't a good QB, not because he was a distraction...

So again, a GOOD team with competent management and some solid locker room leaders should be able to handle this without too much issue. It'll completely destroy the season of a bad team. Going to the Jets or Dolphins may be slightly different than the Patriots or Packers...
 
Teams will pass on him not because of his orientation, but because whichever team drafts him is going to by default get attention which will cause a distraction (i.e., non-traditional tv shows and magazines who don't typically talk about football will try and get interviews/articles about him). The distraction will be more of a concern than how good of a special teams player he will be (which is what he will be). Unfortunately, like all players, if he doesn't get results on special teams, he will be cut, and that will also invite media distraction.
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It's going to be a distraction in the media when they sign him, and another if he gets cut. As for nontraditional media, there have already been articles in gay magazines I've never heard of before as opposed to your typical sports pages. I don't care what he does in the bedroom, but if you're going to be a story each week, is it worth taking him?
 
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