next Star Trek series 1701-?

[C.E. Evans]

The "old" universe is gone, and reboot is the future, live with it. if you can't or thnik I'm wrong you are really out of it.

I wonder what the JJ Abrams universe 24th century 1701-D would look like?

It'll have really huge tapered nacelles with blue front caps (Bussard collectors)...

 

[Dukhat]

Why is the old universe dead? paramount only have themselves to blame if it is "dead", since they messed up the production of Voyager and had a BS concept/production in Enterprise.

It's dead because it's not making them any more money, besides which they lost money from ENT and Nemesis. In a producer's eyes, it's not viable anymore. JJTrek is making them tons of money. JJTrek is viable.

My take would be a 25th century series. And the enemy would be different too, such as humans being the enemy from the far side of the Alpha Quadrant. I think it would be cool to have some Romans, who were taken from Earth 2000 years ago, but need the Federation's help in conquering their enemy. there should also be new technology, and the Romulans shouldn't be enemies again.

Romans? Seriously? Why on Earth would they do that?

 

[Nero's Shadow]

I like to see the U.S.S Enterprise NCC 1701-C I know we would know the fate of this enterprise but what a re cast just trying to think of a good lead lady to play Rachel garret any suggestions and then there's Kyle. You could really do some good things with new crew.?

 

[Admiral Shran]

The "old" universe is gone, and reboot is the future, live with it. if you can't or thnik I'm wrong you are really out of it.

I wonder what the JJ Abrams universe 24th century 1701-D would look like?

The horror, the horror.

 

[The Wormhole]

The "old" universe is gone, and reboot is the future, live with it. if you can't or thnik I'm wrong you are really out of it.

I wonder what the JJ Abrams universe 24th century 1701-D would look like?

Likely twice the size of a super star destroyer, with nacelles so large they each house a colony within.

 

[sbk1234]

I thought having a series that shows 3 or 4 vignettes per episode of different things:
Maybe colonists settling a planet far on the Fed's frontier; a small patrol ship, alone and with being the only "law" for light years around; deep-cover spies, and their exploits;
a research outpost and all the stuff that can come with fooling around with stuff you shouldn't be messing with, etc etc.

I thought of the same idea back when they were making Enterprise. I still think that "Star Trek: Anthology" could work. However, I don't think they'll ever do it, unfortunately. I think the execs would be too worried not having reacurring characters each week. Also since Paramount auctioned off all their Trek collection, they've lost a lot of their assets, which could have been a big selling feature of this.

 

[STR]

I like to see the U.S.S Enterprise NCC 1701-C I know we would know the fate of this enterprise but what a re cast just trying to think of a good lead lady to play Rachel garret any suggestions and then there's Kyle. You could really do some good things with new crew.?

The 1701-C would be great setting for a series based on a huge-overarching plot. Hell, you even start the first episode with the Last Stand of the Enterprise, and spend the rest of the series showing the chain of events that get you there.

It would piss off the Canon Nazis (though I'm betting there's enough space in between the words of dialog in TNG Redemption to squeeze it through), but you can even change up the ending so that some of the crew survives and has something of a happy ending, though it would be overshadowed by the defiant, yet tragic loss of ship and captain.

In order to sell merchandise, and generally provide a sleeker modern design befitting current tastes, you could also remodel the ship. Something along the lines of the original Probert proposal. Again, it would draw the ire of the Nazi's, but that ship is kinda ugly to begin with. It just lacks the refinement of other ships.

 

[Dukhat]

I like to see the U.S.S Enterprise NCC 1701-C I know we would know the fate of this enterprise but what a re cast just trying to think of a good lead lady to play Rachel garret any suggestions and then there's Kyle. You could really do some good things with new crew.?

The 1701-C would be great setting for a series based on a huge-overarching plot. Hell, you even start the first episode with the Last Stand of the Enterprise, and spend the rest of the series showing the chain of events that get you there.

It would piss off the Canon Nazis (though I'm betting there's enough space in between the words of dialog in TNG Redemption to squeeze it through), but you can even change up the ending so that some of the crew survives and has something of a happy ending, though it would be overshadowed by the defiant, yet tragic loss of ship and captain.

In order to sell merchandise, and generally provide a sleeker modern design befitting current tastes, you could also remodel the ship. Something along the lines of the original Probert proposal. Again, it would draw the ire of the Nazi's, but that ship is kinda ugly to begin with. It just lacks the refinement of other ships.

But that's not going to happen because again, you're catering to the desires of a relatively small amount of people. Plus the fact that the Ent-C isn't original. No future Trek series producer is going to want to base a show around the Enterprise-C, no matter how kewl some people here might think that idea is. They're going to want to do something new, not retread someone else's idea.

 

[KJbushway]

All i am saying its time to see the federation not so strong and times not so easily fixed. Its time to see the universe with no Q's or magical space creatures. Why not make a tv series about the contuining mission of the enterprise-E.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

I like to see series based around an eccentric admiral, or negotiator, or something, who travels a lot with her special escort, so that the episodes explore new locations that short away missions can hardly depict, while not being situation on a boring space station or something. Have one season where she travels a lot with a specific starship, one season where she visits a planet or moon to resolve some issue (Andoria? The New Vulcan colonies?), have a season where she's on a certain space station, then move it to another space ship, another planet, etc., have a few consequent episodes situated on Earth among common folk, etc.

In a similar way to TSFS -> TVH, where Kirk was going around without having the Enterprise. I don't want the ties of a captain to their starship. It limits the possibilities.

About the century, I don't know. If it's going to be in Abramaverse, the timeline was already changed so much that it wouldn't matter when it would be situated, but I'm thinking somewhere right between Enterprise B and Enterprise D, or right after Enterprise D. I'd also want series millennia after that, but there won't be any characters that would link it with the old Trek to relate to.

Perhaps, the 29th century, on board Relativity, would be fun for mini-series or a movie.
I'd also love series from someone else's view point, say the Vulcans, or the Klingons, but meh, that'll never fly, and it will get old fast.

 

[SPCTRE]

The 1701-C would be great setting for a series based on a huge-overarching plot. Hell, you even start the first episode with the Last Stand of the Enterprise, and spend the rest of the series showing the chain of events that get you there.

Of course, this is never going to happen, but as a concept, I love it.

It has a similar vibe to it as Halo: Reach's story - from the beginning, you know the end

 

[mtblillie]

I know I'm going off the conversation this has become but back to the original topic....

I would prefer no more Enterprise, but rather have it in the late 24th century with another ship, like a long range deep space explorer and have the Enterprise doing cameo appearences or something. Something where the ship is far outside Federation space but not completely cut off like Voyager. I honeslty think Voyager would have been more believable (as a story, I know that it is fiction) if they hadn't been completely cut off. Everyone was so cheery even though they knew they probably were never going to see home again, I think normal people would've been more snappy under that kind of stress.

 

[C.E. Evans]

I think it's fairly safe to say that the next Trek series will definitely feature a USS Enterprise. DS9 and VOY were both considered spinoffs of TNG, so they were deliberately showing different aspects of that era which didn't involve the Enterprise. I think a new Trek series will either establish a new era in an existing continuity or will be a total reboot. Either way, the Enterprise will kick it off...

But if ENT had been successful enough to merit a spinoff of its own, we'd probably be now discussing a Series VI in the 22nd-Century that didn't feature the Enterprise of that era.

I think the best chance for a Series VI without an Enterprise is either one that takes us back to somewhere in the prime universe and is a direct spinoff of either ENT, TOS, or TNG--or one that is a spinoff of the alternate universe first introduced in Star Trek XI and is set in that same timeframe, IMO...

 

[STR]

The 1701-C would be great setting for a series based on a huge-overarching plot. Hell, you even start the first episode with the Last Stand of the Enterprise, and spend the rest of the series showing the chain of events that get you there.

Of course, this is never going to happen, but as a concept, I love it.

It has a similar vibe to it as Halo: Reach's story - from the beginning, you know the end

It would work better as a miniseries honestly. Any more than season would probably be pushing the concept. A week leading up to kind of thing. Keep it cheap, most of the scenes are on ship, focus on the story.

But that's not going to happen because again, you're catering to the desires of a relatively small amount of people. Plus the fact that the Ent-C isn't original. No future Trek series producer is going to want to base a show around the Enterprise-C, no matter how kewl some people here might think that idea is. They're going to want to do something new, not retread someone else's idea.

That's your best argument? NONE of these ideas are going to happen. As for catering, it's no more pandering than anything else. The idea is actually a story of unintended consequences and a doomed ship/crew. You dont need any backstory to explain it, since the opening 5 minutes give you the ending. However, rather than invent a new ship and crew, I'm merely pulling it from past lore.

It seems to me, that the best stories in trek are those that would be just as good if they were standalone stories, their own little universe. Only when that's nailed down do you bother to fit it into Canon as best as possible.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

I'd like to see any of the following:

U.S.S. Enterprise, in 2245, just out of the fleetyards and commanded by Robert April, with George Kirk along as well. The pilot would see the establishment of Archer in another series.

OR

U.S.S. Enterprise, in 2251, after April's first historic mission, now under the young Chirstopher Pike, with the enigmatic Number One by his side. See what made Pike CO for two tours, and find out more about his crew. (I loved "The Cage", really wish they'd kept Number One instead of Spock, heresy I know)

OR

U.S.S. Enterprise-B, in 2300, whether she'd still be under the command of Harriman or not, I'm not sure which I'd prefer, but with Demora still onboard for sure. It would be an interesting time of change for the galaxy, with old space dogs needing to learn how to get along with the Klingons, the Romulans scheming to destabilise the alliance. I think you could do a lot with it.

 

[SPCTRE]

The 1701-C would be great setting for a series based on a huge-overarching plot. Hell, you even start the first episode with the Last Stand of the Enterprise, and spend the rest of the series showing the chain of events that get you there.

Of course, this is never going to happen, but as a concept, I love it.

It has a similar vibe to it as Halo: Reach's story - from the beginning, you know the end

It would work better as a miniseries honestly. Any more than season would probably be pushing the concept. A week leading up to kind of thing. Keep it cheap, most of the scenes are on ship, focus on the story.

Yeah, it would have to be short, along the lines of the NuBSG miniseries.

 

[Galileo7]

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U.S.S. Enterprise-B, in 2300, whether she'd still be under the command of Harriman or not, I'm not sure which I'd prefer, but with Demora still onboard for sure. It would be an interesting time of change for the galaxy, with old space dogs needing to learn how to get along with the Klingons, the Romulans scheming to destabilise the alliance. I think you could do a lot with it.

1701-B that is an interesting idea established in the beginning of ST Generations.

 

[Dukhat]

That's your best argument? NONE of these ideas are going to happen. As for catering, it's no more pandering than anything else. The idea is actually a story of unintended consequences and a doomed ship/crew. You dont need any backstory to explain it, since the opening 5 minutes give you the ending. However, rather than invent a new ship and crew, I'm merely pulling it from past lore.

I'm not arguing with you. I'm telling you what the point of view of a producer would be if they were given the reigns to create a new Trek series. Nobody cares about the Enterprise-C, at least no one who matters to a producer. And that producer is going to want to create his own vision of Trek, not retread a 20-year-old idea that only hardcore fans would appreciate.

 

[JarodRussell]

Dukhat, I do wonder why you feel the need to say "Not gonna happen" in a thread that is just about what people would like to see. Everyone knows it's not going to happen.

 

[STR]

I'm not arguing with you. I'm telling you what the point of view of a producer would be if they were given the reigns to create a new Trek series. Nobody cares about the Enterprise-C, at least no one who matters to a producer. And that producer is going to want to create his own vision of Trek, not retread a 20-year-old idea that only hardcore fans would appreciate.

1) Yes, you are arguing with me, regardless of whether or not you're playing devil's/producer's advocate.
2) It's not about the Enterprise-C. It's about human beings that get stuck in something vastly larger than themselves, and ultimately paying the price for something they weren't responsible for. It's lambs to the slaughter. It's a classic tragedy. You could change the ship, changes the names of the crew, and the story retains its appeal. Hell, set in the present, change "Romulan" to "Chinese" and make it the crew of a US Navy frigate. That's the part you don't understand. Making it "an Enterprise" is an immaterial detail.
3) Using the Enterprise-C, like I said, is just a substitute for inventing a new ship. You don't need to watch "Yesterday's Enterprise", because the fate of the ship is told in the opening sequence. Indeed, "The tale of the doomed Starship Enterprise" might have a bit of appeal to the uninformed mainstream viewer totally unfamiliar with the story.
4) I think you have a very narrow view of what a producer would even want. Not everyone is arrogant enough to think they have the smarts to reinvent the wheel. A producer is looking to make money. As a vehicle for that, my idea isn't any worse than any other suggestion (aside from the fact you kill everyone so you can't make a sequel * ). On the plus side, it allows CBS to push merchandise (like a TNG DVD set) and promote assets that it's otherwise not really able to do now with the focus being on the TOS/Reboot era.

*=Okay, you could probably do a space-zombie story, but I'm not capable of that level of exploitation.