Politics, Religion, Trek: Three things not to engage fanatics about.
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Its ultimately born of denial, it means they don't have to deal with reality as it truly is.
Some just can't deal with it and create alternatives so they can square it with themselves.
Humanity has been doing it since the very beginning.
I've had more reasoned conversations about religion than with Trek sometimes O_o
My personal query, not that there is any real answer, is what is the end game? If they happen to be right and Kurtzman is fired and Star Trek that is currently running is cancelled then what? It's not like CBS would throw more money after it if they considered it a failure. They would likely shelve it and let it sit for a time. They are not going to recreate 90s Trek.
Spreading bullshit IS the end game. It makes them happy, for some inscrutable reason.
Lonely, empty lives?
Also, some day Kurtzman will leave the franchise, and some day Discovery/Picard/etc will finish, either through cancellation or just by coming to a natural end, at which point they’ll go on about how they were right all along.
A broken clock is right at least twice a day. They will be insufferable.
Of course not. They don't have the necessary talent to deliver that kind of awesomeness.
Some of them say their end game is “for Star Trek in its current form to die instead of being a walking corpse and a shadow of what it once was”. Once this has happened they’re hoping for some kind of miracle resurrection by “someone who knows and respects Star Trek and restores it to its former self”. At least that’s the narrative I’ve gotten from some of them.
It's around that point they mention Alex Peters and Axanar and I die laughing.
With covid ravaging America with no end in sight, does anyone else feel like some of the upcoming Trek shows might never happen?
Patrick Stewart is 80. It doesn't seem likely they'll be filming season 2 of Picard anytime in the near future, which means it's improbable we'll get it in 2021. If there's a vaccine (IF), it'll take some time to distribute and even then not everyone is going to get it. It might not be before 2022 or later that we can have things filming regularly again. If that's the case, then season 3 might not be until 2023 or later.
Section 31 has seemed like it's been doomed to obscurity in favor of SNW. But SNW seems unlikely to film this year or at least the first half of next year, so again, we probably won't get it in 2021.
The Khan miniseries and Starfleet Academy series have always seemed like they were just rumors at most. If they're true, they won't be going into development anytime in the near future due to the current situation.
Who knows when Discovery season 4 will be able to start filming.
Prodigy and LDS season 2 now seem like the likeliest bets, but with the cast and crew (which has yet to be determined for Prodigy) staying at home and not able to work in an actual studio, it'll probably be some time before full seasons are able to be released on each of those.
Am I just being overly pessimistic? I want to be wrong because it's depressing that it could be 2-3 years before we get new Trek again (once Discovery season 3 is finished). But the situation looks worse than it ever has and there's no end in sight.
Patrick Stewart is 80. It doesn't seem likely they'll be filming season 2 of Picard anytime in the near future, which means it's improbable we'll get it in 2021. If there's a vaccine (IF), it'll take some time to distribute and even then not everyone is going to get it. It might not be before 2022 or later that we can have things filming regularly again. If that's the case, then season 3 might not be until 2023 or later.
Section 31 has seemed like it's been doomed to obscurity in favor of SNW. But SNW seems unlikely to film this year or at least the first half of next year, so again, we probably won't get it in 2021.
The Khan miniseries and Starfleet Academy series have always seemed like they were just rumors at most. If they're true, they won't be going into development anytime in the near future due to the current situation.
Who knows when Discovery season 4 will be able to start filming.
Prodigy and LDS season 2 now seem like the likeliest bets, but with the cast and crew (which has yet to be determined for Prodigy) staying at home and not able to work in an actual studio, it'll probably be some time before full seasons are able to be released on each of those.
Am I just being overly pessimistic? I want to be wrong because it's depressing that it could be 2-3 years before we get new Trek again (once Discovery season 3 is finished). But the situation looks worse than it ever has and there's no end in sight.
Discovery season 4 begins filming this October in Toronto, it isn't affected by America's COVID status. If Picard season 2 doesn't start fiming this year, there is a chance CBS will just move the set to Toronto. It's believed Picard season 2 and season 3 will film back-to-back, along with Discovery season 4 and season 5.
As you said, Prodigy and Lower Decks season 2 will be ready to air next year. Both shows will most likely be renewed to fill the gaps due to filming.
But why? If Trek is current in this "walking corpse form" (I hated that pose in Yoga) then ignore it. Because no one is going to restore it to its former self-that's impossible.
Nope.
If millions of people start dropping dead, then yeah, there's gonna be more to worry about than tv shows getting made. But I'm hoping that's not the case.
Picard's the only show threatened by Corona, since that's the only live action show produced in America. All the other live action shows are produced in Canada, and you may have noticed Canada is handling Corona a bit better than America is.
True, but a lot of the cast and crew live in America, and Americans are barred from entering Canada right now.
Emphasis mine. While it’s for an entertainment product, it’s still work.
Source: https://ca.usembassy.gov/travel-restrictions-fact-sheet/
Indeed, even the countries in Europe which are barring Americans from entering are allowing American actors and production crew of movies and TV shows filming in that country to enter, provided they follow the two week self-isolation policy, which I should think will be the same for the Star Trek actors and staff in Canada.
Granted, I find an October start date for filming Disco season 4 a bit on the optimistic side, given the show films in Canada's second hardest hit province which is still averaging 100 new cases a day, and there's a possibility that could increase in the fall. But I can definitely see season 4 beginning within six months of October, provided the second wave expected in the fall isn't as bad as the first wave in the spring. It's definitely a lot more realistic to expect Disco to begin filming in Toronto within the October-April window than it is to expect Picard to begin filming in California within the next year, IMO.
Granted, I find an October start date for filming Disco season 4 a bit on the optimistic side, given the show films in Canada's second hardest hit province which is still averaging 100 new cases a day, and there's a possibility that could increase in the fall. But I can definitely see season 4 beginning within six months of October, provided the second wave expected in the fall isn't as bad as the first wave in the spring. It's definitely a lot more realistic to expect Disco to begin filming in Toronto within the October-April window than it is to expect Picard to begin filming in California within the next year, IMO.
We Got This Covered has yet again published some Pulitzer-worthy investigative journalism, collected from their various "reputable" "sources." (4chan, of course)
So, apparently, the Section 31 show has been cancelled along with a planned Starfleet Academy series chronicling Kirk's studies, and CBSAA was a 100% definitely developing a Star Trek superhero series starring Ruby Rose as an LGBTQ woman and John de Lancie as Q in a supporting role, that has been thrown out as well, presumably so that they could focus on SNW. Not to mention the lovely tidbit about Discovery only making a jump into the future because they shelved a far-future series and its plotline was repurposed as Discovery's third season.
I just love how any Star Trek fb-page I'm following would blindly share this kind of bullshit without second thoughts. Well, it gets them clicks, and I have only myself to blame for opening the link in morbid fascination.
So, apparently, the Section 31 show has been cancelled along with a planned Starfleet Academy series chronicling Kirk's studies, and CBSAA was a 100% definitely developing a Star Trek superhero series starring Ruby Rose as an LGBTQ woman and John de Lancie as Q in a supporting role, that has been thrown out as well, presumably so that they could focus on SNW. Not to mention the lovely tidbit about Discovery only making a jump into the future because they shelved a far-future series and its plotline was repurposed as Discovery's third season.
I just love how any Star Trek fb-page I'm following would blindly share this kind of bullshit without second thoughts. Well, it gets them clicks, and I have only myself to blame for opening the link in morbid fascination.
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