Yes, from Discovery, and was then reused in Picard.
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I speculate that Discovery S3 will establish in its opening minutes that whilst the Discovery and the Enterprise stopped Control from releasing its antimatter detonators in the 23rd Century...
... Meaning their loved ones all lived their lives without the threat on Control...
Control eventually succeeded in 2399 and destroyed Earth, Vulcan, Andoria, Tellar Prime, Deneva, etc. as said in Discovery's future scenes. Control was eventually defeated (Picard S2 and S3?) but Earth was left like this:
The above is not a dubious leak, just my own thoughts.
They've re-animated it to be longer in Picard, but I think the point is Earth being destroyed the same way (antimatter detonation) twice.
I speculate that Discovery S3 will establish in its opening minutes that whilst the Discovery and the Enterprise stopped Control from releasing its antimatter detonators in the 23rd Century...
... Meaning their loved ones all lived their lives without the threat on Control...
Control eventually succeeded in 2399 and destroyed Earth, Vulcan, Andoria, Tellar Prime, Deneva, etc. as said in Discovery's future scenes. Control was eventually defeated (Picard S2 and S3?) but Earth was left like this:
The above is not a dubious leak, just my own thoughts.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I don't think the baddie here is Control.
Perhaps the real Control was the friends we made along the way.
Who do you think it is?
TOS has its share of androids. It’s possible that there is some sort of connection there. But I don’t know that it honestly matters. I think it might be a deus ex machina. The idea of Control has been played out. Why do it again?
To set up a shared universe, with a villain that’s beyond time and space.
First, the universe is already shared. I don’t think they need to set it up. Second, I think they can come up with a more interesting villain that Control.
1. Control is a lousy villain. It has no personality, no complex motivations.
2. Nothing in Discovery's second season involving Control made a lick of sense due to the excessive use of time travel. Bringing it back again would just cause more issues.
3. In general, I don't think Trek does villains. It's not that kind of a universe. Trek has plenty of antagonists of course, but they're usually shown to be misunderstood in some manner, or just following a different moral code than the Federation, rather than actively malevolent.
Trek is a shared universe by default.
More MCU type shit
Trek don't need it. Trek did it before it was cool.
So the issue with bringing it back is?
Bringing it back is not the issue. How they bring it back will be the question.
Control is a highly divisive way to do it. Personally, I don't mind. I liked Control and found it interesting enough from a Trek tech standpoint. But, I see it causing nothing but trouble as a starting point for a crossover.
Not to be that guy and nitpick this article...but George Jefferson totally did appear on All In The Family a couple of times after spinning-off into The Jeffersons. I know my Nick-At-Nite, lol.
Also, The Defenders being poorly received was not the reason why the Netflix Marvel shows were canceled.
Elseworlds / Crisis on Infinite Earths is a better reference.
Much as I’m enjoying the possibility of all of these things, I must admit that the one show notion I most pine for is a successor/contemporary to Picard, set in 2400 or whatever, and featuring further TNG/DS9/VOY-era characters and their respective actors.
Label me uninspired, but as a 1987-2005 Trek kid that’s the sort of “MCU” fare that’s my biggest jam. Always has been. I remember drifting off during bicycle rides to work back in 2002, hoping to see Kira Nerys again sometime soon. lol
As big and as bold as a Defenders-esque gig is, and as enthusiastic as I am toward a Pike show, and as presently tepid as I am toward a Section 31 show... I guess it just sort of feels like CBS runs a serious risk of drying the well again in short order — and before the “Oh god, another Trek show?” show that I want the most!
Label me uninspired, but as a 1987-2005 Trek kid that’s the sort of “MCU” fare that’s my biggest jam. Always has been. I remember drifting off during bicycle rides to work back in 2002, hoping to see Kira Nerys again sometime soon. lol
As big and as bold as a Defenders-esque gig is, and as enthusiastic as I am toward a Pike show, and as presently tepid as I am toward a Section 31 show... I guess it just sort of feels like CBS runs a serious risk of drying the well again in short order — and before the “Oh god, another Trek show?” show that I want the most!
Yes, I'm stopping.
It sounds like it was about the Eugenic Wars. Scrapped and being reused in Section 31.
Same lady leaked this is what happens to Earth in the Picard S1 finale:
So the idea that there would be "Make Earth Great Again" types in the future that want to rewrite history makes sense. But this is rumour. If Earth is destroyed in the Picard finale, then I'm personally going to stop considering these dubious.
That's not Earth. Earth is a vibrant blue. Earth is not dull teal. So already the rumor screencap is a load of oinkwash. Trek has never gotten Earth's hue so blatantly incorrect before so why would it now unless it was being cheap or cliche...
In PIC, I'd be far more surprised if they blew up Earth than putting Picard's head inside a robot, which is the other cuckoo rumor flying around.
Pictures of real Earth can be found here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Earth_from_Space.jpg
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