News? Stories from Dubious Sources

[Quinton]

I think the way Giant Freaking Robot works is they publish as many unverified rumors as possible, in the hopes some will prove correct and they can crow about being right all along.

Yeah, it's pretty obvious when you look at a handful of their articles, too. They love to add 'our trusted and proven sources' in them, especially these Star Trek ones. They hyperlink those words. You click on them and you're taken to a list of the stuff they've claimed that's turned out true. If you look at that stuff for longer than ten seconds, it's mostly things that they themselves didn't break the news on.

More telling is what isn't on the list - namely, the vast majority of their alleged scoops, including Star Trek. El-oh-el.

 

[Omegaphallic]

I run into this video on youtube where this guy claims to have a source on Matalas' Star Trek Legacy. Found it interesting so I subscribed.

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[The Wormhole]

Made it as far as a minute and a half into that when the guy started talking about Paramount/CBS not being enthusiastic about working with Kurtzman anymore and decided I'd heard enough to dismiss this as bullshit.

 

[Campe]

Watched that video the other day. Got a little bit farther. Realized his “source” was bullshit. Quickly blocked the channel. I generally have no problem with peoples opinions on quality of stuff. But don’t blatantly lie about having insider info. Just because you have a YouTube channel or a website doesn’t mean you’re credible.

 

[Omegaphallic]

Made it as far as a minute and a half into that when the guy started talking about Paramount/CBS not being enthusiastic about working with Kurtzman anymore and decided I'd heard enough to dismiss this as bullshit.

You think Paramount is thrilled with Kurtzman after the Clarance disaster? The was an important show to Paramount, so having to cancel it after one season left a bad taste in their mouth.

Why go with Kurtzman when Matalas and Akiva's projects are thriving far more then Kurtzman ever did without him. Picard was never successful or popular until season three,the previous season had their moments, but were a disaster.

 

[fireproof78]

You think Paramount is thrilled with Kurtzman after the Clarance disaster? The was an important show to Paramount, so having to cancel it after one season left a bad taste in their mouth.

Why go with Kurtzman when Matalas and Akiva's projects are thriving far more then Kurtzman ever did without him. Picard was never successful or popular until season three,the previous season had their moments, but were a disaster.

I get that anti-Kurtzman individuals need to spin doctor their opinion, but "disaster" is not the viewpoint of a business. If it was a disaster then CBS would have pulled the plug on Trek and relied on other properties to support their service. Instead, we got 5 seasons of Discovery. 3 seasons of Picard, 3 season of SNW, 3 Seasons of LD. That's a ton of content for a supposed disaster. If were were a Paramount executive I would not describe that as disaster.

Shows get cancelled all the time. So, if it left a bad taste in their mouth then they would do something about it. Instead, it's just business as usual, and business is currently contracting per the market, not anything to do with Kurtzman.

 

[Campe]

Kurtzman has a contract through 2026. Unless he was truly underperforming, like a series of underperformances, Paramount would lose a lot of money to oust him from that contract.

 

[Nerys Myk]

You think Paramount is thrilled with Kurtzman after the Clarance disaster? The was an important show to Paramount, so having to cancel it after one season left a bad taste in their mouth.

Had to Google just to find out what "Clarance" was. Turns out it was the show "Clarice" based on "Silence of the Lambs". A show I forgot even existed. It underperformed and got canceled like many shows. Not sure if it was more important to CBS ( it was on CBS not Paramount+) than any other show canceled in 2021.

 

[fireproof78]

Had to Google just to find out what "Clarance" was. Turns out it was the show "Clarice" based on "Silence of the Lambs". A show I forgot even existed. It underperformed and got canceled like many shows. Not sure if it was more important to CBS ( it was on CBS not Paramount+) than any other show canceled in 2021.

Probably wasn't.

Shows get cancelled. It's the nature of the business. Also, a show cancelled two years ago is indicative of Kurtzman underperforming? Really?

 

[Campe]

Also, Kurtzman oversees the entirety of Star Trek. Others run the shows. Michelle Paradise for Discovery, Mike McMahon for Lower Decks, the Hageman brothers for Prodigy, Akiva Goldman for Strange New Worlds and Terry Matalas for season 3 of Picard. All of these series have had multiple seasons produced (or are being produced) and have had some measure of success. If there were issues with the shows, they’d likely first remove the showrunner. If all were failing, they’d remove Kurtzman.

 

[Omegaphallic]

Because I know you all love Midnight's Edge so much, I thought I'd share this. ME went from its sounding like their going to set aside new trek to reboot it later rescently, to this:

Not only Terry Matalas' Star Trek Legacy deal has been signed because of how popular Star Trek Picard is, but they are going to make him the next Kevin Fiege/James Gunn for Star Trek, but to get that, they had to make a deal with Secret Hideout, a contract to run Star Trek till 2030, and its an open contract to unlike now theu can seek outside projects. They can't completely cut out Alex, because he's a majority owner, but by opening up the deal, they can keep him distracted.

If this turns out to be true Doomcock is going to rage so hot that he's going to melt his way down all the way to the earths core. Should be entertaining.

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[Soong-type Android]

Has anything Midnight's Edge said ever turned out to be true?

 

[fireproof78]

Wait, Kurtzman is laughing? I thought he was fired?

 

[Omegaphallic]

Wait, Kurtzman is laughing? I thought he was fired?

Terry Matalas is a brilliant what can I say.

 

[fireproof78]

Terry Matalas is a brilliant what can I say.

This stuff is absurd.

It amazes me how much time and effort is out in to speculating on the personal business od someone who has no bearing on my day to day life.

Amazing...

 

[RuleofAcuisition17]

Not only Terry Matalas' Star Trek Legacy deal has been signed because of how popular Star Trek Picard is, but they are going to make him the next Kevin Fiege/James Gunn for Star Trek, but to get that, they had to make a deal with Secret Hideout, a contract to run Star Trek till 2030, and its an open contract to unlike now theu can seek outside projects. They can't completely cut out Alex, because he's a majority owner, but by opening up the deal, they can keep him distracted.

More likely route would be to make Matalas the Filoni to Kurtzman's Faverou. Both clearly give a damn about the franchise and both have done very well out of it. Matalas managed to hit the ground running by relentlessly appealing to Nostalgia (albeit supremely crafting new characters in it) while Kurtzman took the risks to try and commission new things. Who'd have thought a goofball comedy about non-hero crewmen or a childrens show would've worked with the oh-so-serious space soap opera show about various actors wearing latex face bumps?

On top of that, the show they're raving so much about? Still had to go past Kurtzman for approval as head honcho of Trek. He approved the damn thing.

Like, I get why people dislike Kurtzman. I did too once as he bought that weird JJ Abrams lighting bloom to Trek, but I also respect the man for trying to do something different with a franchise which was basically dead and floating in the void, slowly looking more dated with each passing year.

But you've got to draw a line somewhere with random hate.

 

[Campe]

Terry Matalas is a brilliant what can I say.

Don’t hold your Icarus too close to the sun.

 

[The Wormhole]

Matalas managed to hit the ground running by relentlessly appealing to Nostalgia (albeit supremely crafting new characters in it)

Matalas has crafted exactly one new character, Captain Shaw. And while Shaw does seem to have struck a chord with the audience, he's still the only actual new character Matalas has created in his Star Trek.

Spoiler: Picard S3 spoilers

I'm not counting Jack Crusher since as Picard's son, he's part of the nostalgia factor in season 3.

 

[eschaton]

Matalas has crafted exactly one new character, Captain Shaw. And while Shaw does seem to have struck a chord with the audience, he's still the only actual new character Matalas has created in his Star Trek.

Spoiler: Picard S3 spoilers

I'm not counting Jack Crusher since as Picard's son, he's part of the nostalgia factor in season 3.

Vadic?

 

[The Wormhole]

I suppose, though Matalas has indicated in interviews she has history with the TNG gang somehow.