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News? Stories from Dubious Sources

Still skeptical. I don't know. It's just the whole "insider" information piece that makes my Vulcan eyebrow raise.

Largely because anyone can claim to be anything on the Internet and that causes me a lot of pause. Irrationally so, perhaps.
That's precisely the problem: You can find any and all opinions, 'experts', and 'facts' on the internet.

I understand that, but I want to prod you a bit, if you don't mind.

What if I said some very, very specific stuff about the future of Star Trek, I'm talking stuff you can't just guess, and it gets confirmed. Would you believe I'm credible? What if I do that multiple times?

Like what if I said a Worf series is in the works or something. And it stars uh, Picard and Burnham, as they fight Khan and his uhmmm Vulcan army?

Just making something up right now of course but what if I actually heard that and published that news, and it gets confirmed. What would you think?
Be right about specific details once and you have my sincere attention. I remember reading that the bad guys in Beyond will be the Borg, based on absolutely accurate info from someone involved in the production. We know how that turned out XD
 
For me personally, I can trust people with inside information when they deliver.

In this case: we've had a lot of Star Trek stories, but no confirmations yet. The scoop about Star Trek - Discovery season 4 and 5 filming back to back turned out to be false/not true/changed. The next scoop with confirmation will probably be Strange New Worlds filming seasons 1 and 2 back to back. If that turns out to be false too, then that's gonna worry me.

If the Khan show, with Valhalla's producers turns out to be true, the Discovery movie and/or the 1992 Star Trek thingy, it makes your claims more believable.

But so far, only one Star Trek claim you made could be verified and that one turned out not to be true. I think it's logical for people to wait and see what happens within the next 12 months and be a bit cautious about the claims you've made.
 
For me personally, I can trust people with inside information when they deliver.

In this case: we've had a lot of Star Trek stories, but no confirmations yet. The scoop about Star Trek - Discovery season 4 and 5 filming back to back turned out to be false/not true/changed. The next scoop with confirmation will probably be Strange New Worlds filming seasons 1 and 2 back to back. If that turns out to be false too, then that's gonna worry me.

If the Khan show, with Valhalla's producers turns out to be true, the Discovery movie and/or the 1992 Star Trek thingy, it makes your claims more believable.

But so far, only one Star Trek claim you made could be verified and that one turned out not to be true. I think it's logical for people to wait and see what happens within the next 12 months and be a bit cautious about the claims you've made.
I think it's unfair to say that the Discovery production claim has been verified to be false-not true/changed. It has not. As I've said before, it has changed so it isn't true anymore of course, but then again, that's also me saying it's not true anymore. It's all my word, nothing has officially been confirmed or denied regarding the production of Discovery S4 & S5.

Also, I don't mean to be, well, mean, but can you please look through my Star Trek scoops again. It's clear you're at the very least not keeping yourself up-to-date with what I've said, seeing as how you didn't know that I had already said Discovery isn't filming seasons 4 and 5 back-to-back anymore. I also don't think you really know what my scoops are, because you've also claimed several times that I've said Picard is filming back-to-back, which I never said, and when I correct you on it you ignore it. This has happened several times now. That, combined with the fact that you said earlier that my Strange New Worlds production scoop is false even though it has never been confirmed or debunked, and the fact that you've been saying that the Discovery S4 & S5 production scoop has been debunked, which it hasn't, makes me want to stop discussing this topic with you.

I have checked out your profile and you call yourself a journalist too. You've also made claims even more far-fetched than I have, and your claims directly contradict what I have heard from my own sources. I also noticed that you've mentioned me several times before, dating back to at least May. This implies you've known about me for a while and I'm pretty sure you know that I was right about Strange New Worlds. I don't know what all of this means but I don't really like it.
 
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"It has changed".

But that could happen to any of your scoops.

If all of your Star Trek scoops should change, then what would that mean? How on earth can we believe you then?

What would it mean if Strange New Worlds season 1 and season 2 weren't filmed back to back?

What would it mean if the Khan mini-series didn't happen or the Discovery movie or the 1992 thingy?

The Strange New Worlds (someone kept saying it was going to be called Star Trek - Enterprise) announcement was rumoured by almost everyone on this planet.

I mean, I could say all kinds of stuff and then later on say: I was telling the truth or my sources were correct, but it has changed.

So far, the only thing that we can really say is that Discovery season 4 and 5 will not be filmed back to back. Earlier this year you said it would be filmed back to back and months later you changed your tune. That is fine. But how on earth are we supposed to believe you if the things you've said months ago 'changes'.

Personally, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. We've had other people like CaptainXaviofEarth claim things that turned out to be half true, half false. But the proof is in the pudding. If you keep saying things, they need to turn out true and not 'changed'. Otherwise you don't have much credibility left.
 
Probably an utter blasphemy to ask, but why bother with all this “I have sources that claim...” stuff? If the people at CBS have something to announce, they will announce it. End of story. We’ll hear of it all eventually, so why bother going after “sources” and “insiders” who might have tiny scraps of information that may or may not be true?

All this whole “my sources are totally legit” claiming does is create aggravation because people are pretty much not inclined to believe this sort of thing anymore (can’t blame them, given the Fandom Menace and their 24/7 fake news machine). And why is it so important to spread this anyway? I mean it will be announced eventually, by legit websites who receive direct confirmation from CBS/Paramount, and they will get ALL the attention. So what’s to be gained...? Is there some kind of “hah, I spread this piece of information first in some forums and discord servers and now it has come true” prize? I don’t get it. :vulcan:
 
"It has changed".

But that could happen to any of your scoops.

If all of your Star Trek scoops should change, then what would that mean? How on earth can we believe you then?

What would it mean if Strange New Worlds season 1 and season 2 weren't filmed back to back?

What would it mean if the Khan mini-series didn't happen or the Discovery movie or the 1992 thingy?

The Strange New Worlds (someone kept saying it was going to be called Star Trek - Enterprise) announcement was rumoured by almost everyone on this planet.

I mean, I could say all kinds of stuff and then later on say: I was telling the truth or my sources were correct, but it has changed.

So far, the only thing that we can really say is that Discovery season 4 and 5 will not be filmed back to back. Earlier this year you said it would be filmed back to back and months later you changed your tune. That is fine. But how on earth are we supposed to believe you if the things you've said months ago 'changes'.

Personally, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. We've had other people like CaptainXaviofEarth claim things that turned out to be half true, half false. But the proof is in the pudding. If you keep saying things, they need to turn out true and not 'changed'. Otherwise you don't have much credibility left.
I don't really care if you believe me. I'm just sharing what I know. If CBS for some reason changes it all then well that's unfortunate but there isn't really anything I can do about it.

I was the person who said it was going to be called Star Trek: Enterprise and I believe that is indeed what it was originally supposed to be called. I also reported that the production title was Strange New Worlds, which no-one else did, and then it was later revealed that the show is called Strange New Worlds. Did I just make that up?

And again, we still don't actually know if Discovery seasons 4 and 5 will be filming back to back. We literally do not know. It hasn't been officially confirmed or debunked. I also don't think it's going to happen but please stop acting like it has been confirmed or debunked. It has not.

I think CaptainXaviofEarth is legit because a lot of what they've been saying is similar to what I've heard.
 
Probably an utter blasphemy to ask, but why bother with all this “I have sources that claim...” stuff? If the people at CBS have something to announce, they will announce it. End of story. We’ll hear of it all eventually, so why bother going after “sources” and “insiders” who might have tiny scraps of information that may or may not be true?

All this whole “my sources are totally legit” claiming does is create aggravation because people are pretty much not inclined to believe this sort of thing anymore (can’t blame them, given the Fandom Menace and their 24/7 fake news machine). And why is it so important to spread this anyway? I mean it will be announced eventually, by legit websites who receive direct confirmation from CBS/Paramount, and they will get ALL the attention. So what’s to be gained...? Is there some kind of “hah, I spread this piece of information first in some forums and discord servers and now it has come true” prize? I don’t get it. :vulcan:

I do like reading about scoops and such. Some turn out to be true, some don't. I find it interesting.
 
I don't really care if you believe me. I'm just sharing what I know. If CBS for some reason changes it all then well that's unfortunate but there isn't really anything I can do about it.

I was the person who said it was going to be called Star Trek: Enterprise and I believe that is indeed what it was originally supposed to be called. I also reported that the production title was Strange New Worlds, which no-one else did, and then it was later revealed that the show is called Strange New Worlds. Did I just make that up?

And again, we still don't actually know if Discovery seasons 4 and 5 will be filming back to back. We literally do not know. It hasn't been officially confirmed or debunked. I also don't think it's going to happen but please stop acting like it has been confirmed or debunked. It has not.

I think CaptainXaviofEarth is legit because a lot of what they've been saying is similar to what I've heard.

Maybe it has got to do with the fact that websites like GGW or The Cinema Spot write articles with information that this or that is most certainly going to happen and then sometimes it turns out it doesn't. Maybe these articles should have some kind of disclaimer. 'Sources tell us this, but things might change', or something. When you bring something with an utmost certainty, you'd better make it happen and not say afterwards 'things have changed'.

So again, I'm very curious if Discovery has indeed been renewed for season 5. If Section 31 will film seasons 1 and 2 back to back, the same as Strange New Worlds. If there really is going to be a Discovery movie (sorry, don't believe that one) and if the Khan series is going ahead with Valhalla's producers and a 1992-Star Trek thingy get's greenlit.

CaptainXavi was quite sure Starfleet Academy was gonig to happen, but it has been rather quiet on that front. Something to do with the showrunners having other contractual obligations or something, he/she said...
 
I don't see the problem with your posts @Vullein, as long as they remain in this thread.

Members can read them or scroll right past them.

Some members of this forum are a bit too territorial at times, its not a good look for them or the forum really, interesting to note its always the same few individuals every time.
 
Maybe it has got to do with the fact that websites like GGW or The Cinema Spot write articles with information that this or that is most certainly going to happen and then sometimes it turns out it doesn't. Maybe these articles should have some kind of disclaimer. 'Sources tell us this, but things might change', or something. When you bring something with an utmost certainty, you'd better make it happen and not say afterwards 'things have changed'.

So again, I'm very curious if Discovery has indeed been renewed for season 5. If Section 31 will film seasons 1 and 2 back to back, the same as Strange New Worlds. If there really is going to be a Discovery movie (sorry, don't believe that one) and if the Khan series is going ahead with Valhalla's producers and a 1992-Star Trek thingy get's greenlit.

CaptainXavi was quite sure Starfleet Academy was gonig to happen, but it has been rather quiet on that front. Something to do with the showrunners having other contractual obligations or something, he/she said...
If that makes you more comfortable, I'll add a disclaimer like that in my articles.

While changing production plans so two seasons don't film back-to-back makes sense, I can't see them "unrenew" their current shows. I mean it's possible because CBS & Netflix have done it in the last few weeks because of the coronavirus, but I can't see them doing it with their Star Trek series.

The Khan stuff is a bit messy. I see the Khan New Trek stuff has a giant puzzle and I've slowly been piecing it together. Unfortunately, the biggest puzzle piece is someone else's scoop, so I'm waiting for that to drop.
 
I don't see the problem with your posts @Vullein, as long as they remain in this thread.

Members can read them or scroll right past them.

Some members of this forum are a bit too territorial at times, its not a good look for them or the forum really, interesting to note its always the same few individuals every time.
I'm trying my best to stick to this thread. It's kind of insulting, "dubious sources" and all but yeah. This is not my forum and I'm new here so I guess I don't have much choice.
 
Yep. I also heard that The Man Who Fell To Earth is getting the same treatment. The Man Who Fell To Earth is actually being reworked to fit this situation. I don't know any of the details.
 
I'm trying my best to stick to this thread. It's kind of insulting, "dubious sources" and all but yeah. This is not my forum and I'm new here so I guess I don't have much choice.
Truth be told it wouldn't bother me if you posted in the other threads but its not worth the triggering that would occur from some, I am quite capable of using my scroll button.

Ultimately the mods have asked for anything unofficial to be posted here, that is good enough for me.
 
Truth be told it wouldn't bother me if you posted in the other threads but its not worth the triggering that would occur from some, I am quite capable of using my scroll button.

Ultimately the mods have asked for anything unofficial to be posted here, that is good enough for me.
I understand why people might not want me to post in other threads and I don't blame them. I just hope that I can eventually move out of this thread after a few of my scoops have been confirmed.

It's unfortunate because by now a lot of my scoops would've been confirmed, but COVID messed that up. And I've said this before (though it didn't seem to come over well) but this community is way more distrusting of leaks than other communities and I also understand why. Still sucks for me though.
 
I understand why people might not want me to post in other threads and I don't blame them. I just hope that I can eventually move out of this thread after a few of my scoops have been confirmed.

It's unfortunate because by now a lot of my scoops would've been confirmed, but COVID messed that up. And I've said this before (though it didn't seem to come over well) but this community is way more distrusting of leaks than other communities and I also understand why. Still sucks for me though.
Doubtful to be honest, if its not official then it should remain here, perhaps the thread title should be altered to unofficial leaks or something like that, it stands to reason that some of the leaks will end up being correct but that confirmation will come long after it really matters to the discussions at hand.

Unfortunately Doomcock and Midnight were discussed by a few well meaning members of the board which sent a few other members right off the deep end (again) resulting in this thread being created.

Just remember that some members take this stuff very very seriously and are so busy positioning themselves on the fence they end up impaling themselves on it. :techman:
 
Yep. I also heard that The Man Who Fell To Earth is getting the same treatment. The Man Who Fell To Earth is actually being reworked to fit this situation. I don't know any of the details.

When is this supposed to happen? If in the near future, it seems strange to me that CBS/Paramount would release Discovery (and this other show) in theaters in the midst of a global pandemic which has 31.9 million reported infections, almost 1 million deaths globally and has caused significant delays for releases and box office losses.

I just want to share the information I've gotten with the Star Trek community.

No one's telling you to stop. But when you put something out on the internet, you can't expect people to blindly believe you. We've been trained to be skeptical. Its not personal.
 
When is this supposed to happen? If in the near future, it seems strange to me that CBS/Paramount would release Discovery (and this other show) in theaters in the midst of a global pandemic which has 31.9 million reported infections, almost 1 million deaths globally and has caused significant delays for releases and box office losses

Well, that "global pandemic which has 31.9 million reported infections, almost 1 million deaths globally and has caused significant delays for releases and box office losses" isn't good for Showcase Cinemas, a theater chain owned by ViacomCBS' parent company. From my original article on the matter:

The Cinema Spot has learned that Showcase Cinemas are aiming to show Star Trek: Discovery Season 3 and The Man Who Fell To Earth in their movie theaters.

As an effort to support sister-company Showcase Cinemas during (and after) the quagmire that is the coronavirus outbreak, a select few CBS All Access originals will be shown in Showcase Cinemas theaters for free to subscribers of Showcase Cinema’s new subscription service.

Currently, it is only known that Star Trek: Discovery Season 3 and The Man Who Fell To Earth fall under this deal, though other series from ViacomCBS will have similar arrangements.

While Star Trek: Discovery season 3 is made for television, we have heard that CBS All Access might be reworking The Man Who Fell To Earth to better fit being shown in movie theaters. It is currently unknown what changes will be made, though this new version of The Man Who Fell To Earth has been described to me as an “immersive experience.”

Alongside these CBS All Access originals, Showcase Cinemas will be showing other television series and films once they land more distribution rights. Because there aren’t many films coming out, they’ll be bringing classic films and TV series to the big screen.
 
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