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New word of the day - Flat-Viewers (people who can't see 3D film)

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Admiral
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Here's an interesting article on a segment of the audience that could be left behind if the predicted move to 3-D in film and TV happens. A percentage of people cannot see the 3-D effects. Apparently they have a name for them already: flat-viewers.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/01/15/3d.tv.opinion/index.html?hpt=Sbin

This article is mostly about people who, apparently, can't see any stereo vision at all. Sort of like color blindness. However there are also people like me who, because of strong prescription glasses and astigmatism, can't see some 3-D effects. For example, I can use Viewmasters fine. I can't use binoculars properly because I can't focus them enough to match my eyes so I usually can only look through one eyepiece (trying not to scratch my glasses). And I have been able to watch 3-D movies in the past -- not the big-screen versions, but back in the 80s they used to air old 1950s 3-D and I could watch those OK though I ended up with a headache afterwards. I was physically incapable of deciphering those 3-D pictures that were all the rage back in the 90s. Otherwise I have no problems with depth perception or stereo vision in "the real world" so I don't consider myself quite in the same category as those described in the CNN article.

More recently, when Journey to the Center of the Earth came out on DVD a couple years ago, I attempted to watch the 3-D version with the glasses. And I was rather disturbed to find I could not see the effect at all. This, combined with other similar experiences (which coincided with a general decrease in my eyesight over the past few years caused partly by age and partly by worsening prescription), have made me hesitant to pay out the money to see Avatar in 3-D because I don't want to waste the money and have my view of the film colored by a bad experience (there's a slight pun in there). Fortunately a 2-D version is also showing in my city, though in theatres far removed from my part of town so I haven't had a chance to go yet. The 2-D will probably be out of the local theatres before I have a chance.

Back to the article, I'm glad to see the planned 3-D TVs will have an option for shutting off the 3-D effect. Aside from the fact I don't approve of altering the creative vision of people who created movies to be seen in 2-D, just for a gimmick, it will be good to know that I won't be completely disenfranchised if 3-D becomes the norm.

Are there other people here who fall into the situation described in the article, or the one I described? Whether it's Avatar or one of the 3-D cartoons, have you found yourself having to seek a 2-D option because you can't see the effects?

Alex
 
Back when Meet The Robinsons came to theaters I went with my brother. It was our first 3-D experience and we both agreed that a) we could only clearly see about half the effects b) the other half hurt our eyes and c) it was headache inducing and a total waste of money.

I would love to see Avatar but the nearest 2-D hosting theater is at least three hours drive away, so I don't expect I will.

I understand why people who tolerate it might want more 3-D, but I wish the production companies and theaters would keep in mind that not everyone*can* view it. Period.

I certainly wouldn't be buying a 3-D screen that didn't have a 2-D option.
 
I am, I suppose, in the "flat viewer" category. :)

I can't do anything 3D because I do not have binocular vision. I only see out of one eye. Well, okay, technically that's not true. I am not blind in the other eye, but due to problems with the development of the optic nerves when I was very young, and some scar tissue from surgery, all I can see out of that eye are extremely blurry, unfocused images. I can make out basic shapes, colors, that sort of thing, but am unable to focus on anything. If I close my "good" eye, it literally looks like a camera that is as far out of focus as it can get.

So while my "bad" eye does assist with some peripheral vision, I'm basically seeing through one eye. As a result, 3D images don't work for me. Most optical tricks don't either. And with binoculars, I just see through one side.

So, yeah, things that are exclusively in 3D are frustrating for me. Now, I've never tried the new, modern 3D that films like "Avatar" are released in. Frankly, nothing's come out in 3D that I was that psyched to see. My daughter will want to see Toy Story 3D, however, so I'll probably give it a shot then. And I'll want to see Tron Legacy, so unless they release a 2D version, I'll probably try to watch the 3D one. I'm hoping that while I won't be able to experience the 3D effects, I'll still be able to see an undistorted picture.

We'll see.

But, yeah, I wouldn't want everything to go 3D. :)
 
My vision in my left eye is blurry and distorted. My brain can split the difference enough to give me decent depth perception in everyday life, but 3D film or image effects do nothing for me.
 
I may be one, too. My right eye is a lazy-eye, since birth. Once they discovered it, it was too late to use a patch. I wear glasses and every eye doctor I go to says that the lazy-eye doesn't need correcting, it is just lazy. I liken it to periferral vision all the time for that eye. My basketball playing has always been terrible but I can hit a baseball fine.

I do see some 3-D effects, but it all depends on something that I haven't figured out, yet. On my second viewing of Avatar, I was able to see more, though the movie UP wasn't impressive for its 3-D effects.
 
I was alright with the last 3D film I saw - but I had an operation a week ago to correct my double vision - I can't hold things together for very long - but since the operation I'm now seeing double everything more than 50cm away. It's an experience.
 
I can see the 3D effects but it usually gives me a headache and my eyes feel sore afterwards. I prefer seeing things in 2D.
 
The last few 3D stuff on tv has not worked for me - I never got the right experience. I also ended up tired of looking through glasses with two diffrent lense colors. Rather watch 2D.
 
I suspect I'll be a "flat viewer" until somebody can explain to me how 3D works for those of us who are practically blind without our prescription glasses.

Do the glasses sit in front of the your prescription ones ? Behind them ? Do they have slightly larger ones to fit over the top ?
 
I suspect I'll be a "flat viewer" until somebody can explain to me how 3D works for those of us who are practically blind without our prescription glasses.

Do the glasses sit in front of the your prescription ones ? Behind them ? Do they have slightly larger ones to fit over the top ?


I wear glasses and the 3D glasses (at least the ones for Avatar) fit pretty well right over my prescription glasses. I may have had to adjust them slightly a couple times during the film, but that's nothing you don't already do with your regular glasses.
 
I suspect I'll be a "flat viewer" until somebody can explain to me how 3D works for those of us who are practically blind without our prescription glasses.

Do the glasses sit in front of the your prescription ones ? Behind them ? Do they have slightly larger ones to fit over the top ?

I don't now if it matters? *shrug* I saw Shrek 3D (or is it 4D?) at universal, I saw plenty of the effects, whether or not a "normal" film would work for me or not, I don't know. A 3D TV? Are they really expecting the 3D craze to take off that much? Jeeze.
 
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