Star Trek: Of Gods And Men is not a New Voyages episode. We shot on the NV sets and James and few others from NV were in it. Last time I was on the set was in 2007 while they were filming Blood and Fire.
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Star Trek: Of Gods And Men is not a New Voyages episode. We shot on the NV sets and James and few others from NV were in it. Last time I was on the set was in 2007 while they were filming Blood and Fire.
I've always considered "Come What May" to be the series pilot, so I can see why they renumbered it as episode "0".
I'm very confused by James' pronouncements. Just a few days ago he was proudly posting photos of the spiffy new sets, including a gorgeous Engineering set that looks even more photo-accurate than the beauty that Star Trek Continues just debuted. Something or someone must have really peed in his Space Corn Flakes over the past weekend for such a sharp 180.
I'm very confused by James' pronouncements. Just a few days ago he was proudly posting photos of the spiffy new sets, including a gorgeous Engineering set that looks even more photo-accurate than the beauty that Star Trek Continues just debuted. Something or someone must have really peed in his Space Corn Flakes over the past weekend for such a sharp 180.
We did something similar with our Excelsior audio series. The original show "There You Are" was pretty crude by our current standards. Not surprising since none of us at that time knew our ass from a hole in the ground when it came to putting out such a show. We learned a lot and quickly picked up some very talented and experienced producers who helped us get on the right track. Since "There You Are" isn't really required listening to follow the story arc, our Executive Producer James Heaney lists it on our website as something hard core fans should listen to at their leisure, more as a measure of how far we've come with our production standards, than because of any great intrinsic value. I will say that I had a hell of a lot of fun and gained some very valuable skills as a post-producer, but those early efforts show that we had a lot to learn. Hopefully, the later episodes show that we learned a lot.
I wouldn't be surprised if James&Co. feel much the same way about their first effort, although I certainly don't want to speak for James, Greg or anyone else involved with NV.
I wouldn't be surprised if James&Co. feel much the same way about their first effort, although I certainly don't want to speak for James, Greg or anyone else involved with NV.
Truth to tell, I stole the idea of hiding our pilot from New Voyages. It had never occurred to me that we could do that until STNV did it. But, once it did, what a good idea it was.
So, thank you to James Cawley for coming up with it. We didn't actually hide our pilot the way STNV did for a while, but we did take it off the iTunes storefront and put it in a "special episodes" zone on our episodes page so new listeners wouldn't find it.
Our first "regular episode" was still pretty rough in terms of audio engineering, but it's light-years ahead of the pilot. Way more tolerable. Pretty much the same story as STNV there. You learn so, so much in your first outing. Everyone should make a disposable pilot.
Mike, next year's our tenth anniversary, believe it or not. We should do an audio commentary of the pilot to celebrate. Because, you're right: it was a ton of fun making that episode. We just had a lot still to learn!
Anyone who has not yet seen the pilot, it can be found here: http://www.stnv.de/cwm
We also made a behind the scenes video that gives an insight on how it was made, etc. New Voyages has progressed a very long way since then!!!
We also made a behind the scenes video that gives an insight on how it was made, etc. New Voyages has progressed a very long way since then!!!
I would ask that their last episode would be the Enterprise arriving at Spacedock, some crew promoted, etc
It's not that we try to hide it; it's more like we try to soft pedal it.
It's a valiant first effort and with all its warts, it accomplished most of our pilot episode mission goals. But the other Trek fan film production from whom we, ah, obtained? Purloined? Obsconded with? Borrowed without permission?--the script "The Mighty Galvanaut" was none too happy with us. I think that's another reason why we soft pedal it.
I always wondered about the why, Come What May would hold up to some of the material being produced today and I guess that's as good an answer as any.
I've been trying to find that storyline written by the Johnsons for a long time. Sigh, I don't know how accurate the fanfilm was to The Mighty* but I still would love to read the Johnsons' story outline.
Funny story. Back in the early days, before I learned the art of not being a dick, I once told the gentleman in question what I thought of that act. At the time he'd been explaining quite firmly to me what he thought about my (admittedly not very diplomatic) review of Come What May, but suffice to say, it didn't go down well.
I do feel bad about that.
Basically, the story is the same, as is some of the dialog (I have the "Galvanaut" script right here). In summary: some giant alien vessel shows up threatening planets and ships and is repeatedly driven off my a teeny tiny vessel, and the starship crew look foolish by always showing up after the action. Eventually, they spot the tiny craft and grab it. In "Galvanaut" the tiny ship itself is beamed aboard and shortly the tiny red-skinned Galvanaut emerges and is put into the brig, whereas in "Come What May" the Ohn is beamed out of the craft and then followed by the humanoid Onabi. The captains both act poorly and as if they're in a bad fanfilm script (oops) by being testy and not doing their jobs. After some bland shipboard hijinks the big bad ship chases the starship around until they hide in the Mutara Nebula (or what might as well be) and the captain eventually decides to trust their guests and release them. In short, nothing much happens except the crew takes no decisive action and lets the guest stars go save the day.
The Galvanaut is the first of his kind to go into space, and his craft is intelligent and inexplicably superpowerful for what is essentially the Galva people's first Mercury capsule. Onabi seems to be Q-like and Ohn is... I dunno, the intelligent offsping of an atom and a venn diagram.
Weak story and bad script in either incarnation.
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As weak and bad as the piece may be, I still hope to one day read the script. You were very fortunate to have the chance to read it, but thank you for your summary.
I dunno if "fortunate" is the word.
It's not a good script. It's not even as good as "The Savage Empire".
Do not worry about the sets. Something is planned for them. I do not know what; if I did, I could not say. But it will be cool. Watch this space.
