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New Voyager Fan- best seasons

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Hi everyone ;) new chick here- 28 year uni student from Australia. After being forced to watch Voyager daily 8.30pm every week night on foxtel I've grown hooked. I spent the first few episodes laughing at Janeway's chimp monk voice but when I got past this I found myself getting into it. The acting is sometimes pretty wooden (thank you chakotay) and the blatently sesxist inclusion of the character seven infuriates me, but despite these minor issues i'm now officially addicted.
I was hoping to find out what the best seasons are? I was thinking of getting three of them.

Thanks :)
 
Best in who's mind? Mine or yours? Seriously, if you aren't that fond of Seven, then stick with seasons 1-3... realizing that Janeway's chipmonk voice settles down after season 1.

If you actually like Seven of Nine, then its more complicated.

I like season 1 for its pure "set up". :crazy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA5BjaExdA4

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA5BjaExdA4[/yt]

I like season 3 because everyone is looser, more relaxed and past the minute by minute "will we survive this adventure" feeling that flows in 1&2. :wtf:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwxJKV3-sBE

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwxJKV3-sBE[/yt]

I like season 5 for its excessive angst, where everyone on board goes through their own personal "dark night of the soul". :evil:

In truth, however, I love all 7 seasons... :rolleyes:

In fact I love just about every character on the ship :alienblush:

But I ESPECIALLY love...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StF_9b4dzmg

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StF_9b4dzmg[/yt]
 
I'm going primarily off of memory here, since I'm only into the third season on my first real rewatch since the series ended. But as a kid I remember liking 3, 4, 5 and 7 the most. Right now I'm midway through the third season and at least that first part is holding up fairly well. :)
 
28 year old uni student? GET A JOB

And use your pay to buy all seven seasons and decide for yourself.

(Foxtel got me hooked as well)
 
I've always been fond of seasons 4 and 7 myself, but I would say watch the entire series and decide for yourself. Each character has their great moments, some more than others.
 
I'll second JRulz' list. S1 is good for setup but there are some baaad episodes and acting (apart from standouts like Faces). Ditto S2. Things start getting much better acting and scriptwise mid-S3, and S4/5 is prob best, with gradual decline (for me anyway) in 6 & 7 bar a few eps. I think view of seaons also depend on which characters you like; whether you're a Kes or Seven fan; and which Janeway hair you prefer ;)
 
I'd say seasons 3 and 4 were the best. Seasons 1 and 2 were rather uninspiring for the most part and didn't have much of a direction beyond "the Kazon are the bad guys" By 6 and 7 the series was starting to become old, and every Trek cliche overused repeatedly as the writers ran out of ideas.

Honestly though, and this is just a personal thing, I can't buy a season 2 if I don't own season 1. Continuity! :P

Janeway is insane at times, Chakotay has about as much character as moss on Janeway's rock, Harry is the eternal whipping boy, Torres can only fix things or smash them, they never figured out what to do with Kes, and Seven's outfit(however nicely she fills it) really does set women's rights back 200 plus years. The Doctor and Paris really do carry that show at times.

If you can get over all that, it took me time to be certain, it's an enjoyable watch. I enjoyed TNG and DS9 more, but Voyager's worth watching.

Show Motto: Voyager.... at least it's not Enterprise! :P
 
I do have a job ;)I'm a teachers aid, doing a full time degree with three kids- but thanks for the heads up.

Maybe you should get a job? Awfully high post count there. ;)

Thanks for the suggestions.
 
I think I like Season 1 and 4 the best. However, I rewatched Seasons 5-7 recently having actually dismissed them for sometime, and I have to say Season 5 would probably be my third favorite season. If I were to rank them from favorite to least favorite (Something I haven't done with Voyager as much as the other series), it would probably look like this:

Season 4
Season 1
Season 5
Season 3
Season 2
Season 6
Season 7

That might change next week though.
 
Although I agree that the inclusion of Seven of Nine was to be eye candy for the younger male audience, Jeri Ryan actually surprised me several times with her acting abilities, and the character did have some good moments on the show.

Other then that, I will never understand why people will only buy a few seasons of a particulair series. It's a whole series, not a part series. Buy it all. :)
 
I have watched season 4 more than any other but that has a lot to do with 7 being my favorite character ever.

7 is not some bimbo sex symbol. She's a fascinating and at times tragic person with a greater character development than 99% of other Trek characters. She also brings a lot of development to other characters.. they might have thought they were adding her to VOY for SEX but they got not much sex at all and a whole lot of Trek themes instead, thanks to great acting on Ryan's part and great writing.

I liked all the seasons but it did pick up from season 4. The Doctor really develops and the whole show gets a bit more original. The Grand Borg Opera is in full swing. But it's not like there are slow or bad seasons IMHO. B'Elanna, Tom, the EMH.. they all develop from the first couple seasons and it's good to see them more raw and still not as close.
 
teacake said:
7 is not some bimbo sex symbol. She's a fascinating and at times tragic person with a greater character development than 99% of other Trek characters. She also brings a lot of development to other characters.. they might have thought they were adding her to VOY for SEX but they got not much sex at all and a whole lot of Trek themes instead, thanks to great acting on Ryan's part and great writing.
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I agree. Writing the character off as "blatantly sexist" is really missing a lot.

In some ways, Seven is much like Jeri herself--a beautiful geek. They do exist.
 
teya said:
teacake said:
7 is not some bimbo sex symbol. She's a fascinating and at times tragic person with a greater character development than 99% of other Trek characters. She also brings a lot of development to other characters.. they might have thought they were adding her to VOY for SEX but they got not much sex at all and a whole lot of Trek themes instead, thanks to great acting on Ryan's part and great writing.
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I agree. Writing the character off as "blatantly sexist" is really missing a lot.

In some ways, Seven is much like Jeri herself--a beautiful geek. They do exist.
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That's interesting because I've always thought the writers held too much back on Seven in the later seasons. Whenever I see Jeri in interviews, she's always so happy and bubbly, yet when she played Seven, it was nothing like that. It's probably why I didn't like the episode Human Error when the writers said to everyone hoping that she would become more human that she is pretty much unable to. At the time I thought it undermined a lot of her development in prior seasons, especially when the overall point of the character was to reclaim her individuality.
 
tomalak301 said:
teya said:
teacake said:
7 is not some bimbo sex symbol. She's a fascinating and at times tragic person with a greater character development than 99% of other Trek characters. She also brings a lot of development to other characters.. they might have thought they were adding her to VOY for SEX but they got not much sex at all and a whole lot of Trek themes instead, thanks to great acting on Ryan's part and great writing.
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I agree. Writing the character off as "blatantly sexist" is really missing a lot.

In some ways, Seven is much like Jeri herself--a beautiful geek. They do exist.
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That's interesting because I've always thought the writers held too much back on Seven in the later seasons. Whenever I see Jeri in interviews, she's always so happy and bubbly, yet when she played Seven, it was nothing like that. It's probably why I didn't like the episode Human Error when the writers said to everyone hoping that she would become more human that she is pretty much unable to. At the time I thought it undermined a lot of her development in prior seasons, especially when the overall point of the character was to reclaim her individuality.
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Well, Jeri was acting...

Even removing the whole "Human Error" nonsense, I don't think Seven would ever have become as outgoing as Jeri herself. She's still an individual.
 
^Nor would I ever expect seven to be, but I was making the distinction that Jeri and Seven were not really anything alike, which is a credit to Jeri's acting. I would have been nice to see Seven reach the levels of her holodeck character in The Killing Game though, in later seasons. That wouldn't have been too much to ask.
 
tomalak301 said:
^Nor would I ever expect seven to be, but I was making the distinction that Jeri and Seven were not really anything alike, which is a credit to Jeri's acting. I would have been nice to see Seven reach the levels of her holodeck character in The Killing Game though, in later seasons. That wouldn't have been too much to ask.
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Jeri is, however, a self-described geek. And she made a choice between a career in acting & a career in engineering. So she does have things in common with Seven.

My point was that Seven was hardly a sexist character, unless one believes that a woman can't be brilliant & beautiful. Which to me is a sexist POV.
 
like most of the longer-lasting Trek series, the best seasons tend to be in the middle, seasons 3-5 or 3-6. Once they got away from the Kazon and Seska, the Neelix/Kes stuff, etc.
 
Season 2, season 1 and season 3 are the best seasons. Season 2 is fantastic with a lot of great episodes. :techman:
 
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