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New Trek Series?
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Bizarre. I recall the Sal Lagonia name from this bbs a few years ago. An "an award-winning author before switching to screenwriting at age 22..."?, according to imdb.
The weirdest bit from the interview is this:
You have to go through correct channels, and have a body of work behind you - not just "dancer", "production assistant" and "writing consultant" (see http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2609287/ ) - and airing your ideas at conventions, asking for feedback and permission to keep ideas for free are not "correct channels". I can't imagine RA not telling the guy the whole thing is a pipe dream.
The weirdest bit from the interview is this:
Sounds like nothing more than a "world building" fan panel. Richard Arnold is a regular convention guest Down Under and he constantly talks about people needing to take the correct path to pitch ST stories, and that Paramount/CBS is not in the habit of taking open pitches for new series/movies anyway.
You have to go through correct channels, and have a body of work behind you - not just "dancer", "production assistant" and "writing consultant" (see http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2609287/ ) - and airing your ideas at conventions, asking for feedback and permission to keep ideas for free are not "correct channels". I can't imagine RA not telling the guy the whole thing is a pipe dream.
Is this Sal guy for real? I clicked on the IMDB page and it reeks of someone who was able to "get by" the security procedures of IMDB to make his own page. And I would love to see what his "award winning" books were (a quick google searched turned up nothing).
And does anyone else feel that this whole "project" reeks of the nutcase a year or so ago who came up with this needlessly elaborate fanwank script that had all the characters from all the series crossover for one major movie and was dead set on trying to convince everyone that this was in serious consideration by Paramount?
And does anyone else feel that this whole "project" reeks of the nutcase a year or so ago who came up with this needlessly elaborate fanwank script that had all the characters from all the series crossover for one major movie and was dead set on trying to convince everyone that this was in serious consideration by Paramount?
As I said, I definitely recall the name of Sal Lagonia from this bbs. Don't recall his user name.
I expect to see countless proposals fall by the wayside over the next decade or so, especially if the studio's faith in J.J. Abrams doesn't pay off. One feature film and a cartoon series have already fallen. One at the scriptwriting stage, another during concept drawings (very Clone Wars in style). Many like this one won't even make it to the interview stage with a Studio Executive and will end up as a fan production. But hey, it's all good promotion for Sal Lagonia...
-sighs-
Let's get one thing clear. "Cardinal" is a fan-fic. Nothing more.
Lagonia posts on StarTrek.COM too. He's convinced it's TV series material.
But it isn't.
And horrible fan-fic at that. Did you see the ridiculous looking ship?
http://www.startrekcardinal.com/FAQs.php
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either you're deliberately advertising this junk, or you have made a very, very grave error.
Ding...ding...ding! We have a winner!
Considering this individual just registered to post this "news", I'd say they are involved with the project somehow.
As if any ship looking butt ugly such as this one would make it to a Trek show. Come on, people would burst out laughing every time they saw it.
The "ship" kind of looks like a turkey. What are those funny little red things on the flanks supposed to be? The mind boggles.
The "ship" kind of looks like a turkey. What are those funny little red things on the flanks supposed to be? The mind boggles.
Uhhh..... *thinks*
No, never seen something looking like that "ship" on a human being.
I'll stick to the turkey comparison, it's work safe, at least.
TMI, totally. *rollseyes*
No, never seen something looking like that "ship" on a human being.
I'll stick to the turkey comparison, it's work safe, at least.
TMI, totally. *rollseyes*
Coupled with some unintentionally funny dialogue...
"You've ten minutes and then we've got to pull you outta there!"
Coupled with some unintentionally funny dialogue...
"You've ten minutes and then we've got to pull you outta there!"
10 minutes?? It'll be over in 30 seconds!
Oh jeez, this again? I remember this time two years ago, someone under the user name SLangonia posted here on Trek BBS saying he was preparing a new Trek series for CBS/Paramount and wanted our input on things he was considering for the show. We all laughed and mocked him mostly for his bad spelling (he spelled Roddenberry "Rodenbury"). Then last year another website had an interview with Sal Langonia claiming to be the man behind the new Trek series, this time with a detailed seven year plan about a Starfleet border partol ship that goes to war with the Ferengi, becomes a renegade defies Starfleet and becomes a force of its own, and a bunch of other ridiculous stuff.
Bottom line is, this guy is never going to make this thing a TV series. Star Trek Cardinal will become nothing more than a fanfic that will be mocked because of the guy's belief that he can make it into a show. Just remember, CBS rejected a Trek series proposal from JMS, a guy who has some influence in TV, specifically in sci-fi circles. If they did that, why would they accept a proposal from a no-name fan who claims to be a "small-time writer" or whatever he's calling himself these days?
Bottom line is, this guy is never going to make this thing a TV series. Star Trek Cardinal will become nothing more than a fanfic that will be mocked because of the guy's belief that he can make it into a show. Just remember, CBS rejected a Trek series proposal from JMS, a guy who has some influence in TV, specifically in sci-fi circles. If they did that, why would they accept a proposal from a no-name fan who claims to be a "small-time writer" or whatever he's calling himself these days?
Basically what I get from reading all that and looking at the site is:
A less perfect portrayal of the Federation, mostly focused on this messed up crew.
The crew would probably work more like... Idunno, a less messed up Galactica crew but more messed up then the Enterprise.
So far no originality.
Oh and they have the ugliest ship I've ever seen. Whoever designed that ship had no talent.
Mysteries, maybe Lost style in execution and revelation but less fantasy more scifi.
The season descriptions didn't sound all that good. You've have to give a lot more detail to go beyond these basic unoriginal ideas.
Don't get me wrong. I'm all for a grittier Trek. I'm just not at all sold on this guy's ideas... and the ship is HIDEOUS!
A less perfect portrayal of the Federation, mostly focused on this messed up crew.
The crew would probably work more like... Idunno, a less messed up Galactica crew but more messed up then the Enterprise.
So far no originality.
Oh and they have the ugliest ship I've ever seen. Whoever designed that ship had no talent.
Mysteries, maybe Lost style in execution and revelation but less fantasy more scifi.
The season descriptions didn't sound all that good. You've have to give a lot more detail to go beyond these basic unoriginal ideas.
Don't get me wrong. I'm all for a grittier Trek. I'm just not at all sold on this guy's ideas... and the ship is HIDEOUS!
nope, not involved at all, not even sure i like the idea. just put new site online and cant exactly get an interview with JJ can i! and iv posted on other threads too. didnt realise one little interview wud cause such offence, sorry
didnt realise one little interview wud cause such offence, sorry
It's never too late to polish the spelling, and tone down the inferences that this is a legitimate potential new TV series.
didnt realise one little interview wud cause such offence, sorry
It's never too late to polish the spelling, and tone down the inferences that this is a legitimate potential new TV series.
lol, my spelling can be pretty bad sometimes, i'll check it (normally dreamweaver does it 4 me!). i dont think i implied it was a "legitimate potential new TV series", hence the question mark at the end of New Trek Series?
i could have titled it "New Trek Series?.......No F***ing way!" but i thought in this case it was better to just do the interview and let other people make their own mind up.
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