Oh, neat.
Glad to see even the new CGI effects are maintaining some nifty continuity.
Glad to see even the new CGI effects are maintaining some nifty continuity.
New starships from TOS remastered Season 1
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The Starship Yamato, seen as an illusion in TNG's early second season outing "Where Silence Has Lease", was identified by Riker: "N-C-C-1-3-0-5-dash-E. It's the Yamato, our sistership!"
This registry suggests that Republic, "registry number 1-3-7-1", as stated by Kirk in "Court Martial", could possibly be the same starship class as the Yamato, and maybe both were either Connie or were rebuilt to Connie specs.
This registry suggests that Republic, "registry number 1-3-7-1", as stated by Kirk in "Court Martial", could possibly be the same starship class as the Yamato, and maybe both were either Connie or were rebuilt to Connie specs.
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It's true that there is utterly no canon indication that 'NCC-1831' is the Intrepid. However, considering that most of those others were assigned to Constitution-class ships by Greg Jein (and his information was used in the Encyclopedia), I just put it down as an error and assumed that it was really supposed to be 'NCC-1831'.
The Yamato's correct registry (the longer one without the 'E' bit) was also seen on LCARS displays, as well as the physical model. The writer for the episode made a mistake in the registry schemes that the art department tried to correct. Which is canon is all down to individual choice (the actual script versus the artwork/SFX/producer's intentions).
It's true that there is utterly no canon indication that 'NCC-1831' is the Intrepid. However, considering that most of those others were assigned to Constitution-class ships by Greg Jein (and his information was used in the Encyclopedia), I just put it down as an error and assumed that it was really supposed to be 'NCC-1831'.
The Yamato's correct registry (the longer one without the 'E' bit) was also seen on LCARS displays, as well as the physical model. The writer for the episode made a mistake in the registry schemes that the art department tried to correct. Which is canon is all down to individual choice (the actual script versus the artwork/SFX/producer's intentions).
Yeah, glad someone checked that Yamato registry for me. Seeing as the ship was Galaxy-class and supposedly modern for the TNG era, having its registry be lower than the TOS-era Republic's made no sense whatsoever. Glad they finally changed it by the time the second mention was made.
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They should put the Blue warp Lights in all the guest Starring Starships to brighten it all up. Season 3 should have the blue warp lights on the Enterprise since the ship can now do " Warp 9..." :thumbsup:
But it was an Enterprise. An exception.
Why not have the Yamato be another such exception, then?
One of the endearing aspects of TOS was that our heroes were not flashy space adventurers, but rather mundane space workers. Their ship was nothing special, and the backgrounds of the characters were nicely pedestrian as well: a farmboy, a country doctor, a runaway kid, a long- and hard-working career machinist...
TNG was in many ways the exact opposite, everybody aboard a celebrity or overachiever. It would IMHO have helped a lot to show that Starfleet operated other "legendary" ships in addition to the hero vessel, had other competent personnel on its payroll, that Starfleet in fact existed outside the walls of the hero vessel as something more than a mere name-drop.
Timo Saloniemi
One of the endearing aspects of TOS was that our heroes were not flashy space adventurers, but rather mundane space workers. Their ship was nothing special, and the backgrounds of the characters were nicely pedestrian as well: a farmboy, a country doctor, a runaway kid, a long- and hard-working career machinist...
TNG was in many ways the exact opposite, everybody aboard a celebrity or overachiever. It would IMHO have helped a lot to show that Starfleet operated other "legendary" ships in addition to the hero vessel, had other competent personnel on its payroll, that Starfleet in fact existed outside the walls of the hero vessel as something more than a mere name-drop.
Timo Saloniemi
But we never saw any of the other Yamatos in TREK and Starfleet for us to have a frame of reference. If this was the "1305-E" that would make it the SIXTH ship named Yamato in Starfleet history, but we had only ever seen or heard of one. The TNG one. Without having seen other ships with the same name, it sort of made the nod-and-wink hull reference meaningless. Besides, I think Roddenberry and the producers once said the Enterprises were basically the only ships left in their universe with numbers that low.
The Enterprise was certainly supposed to be the only ship that had the registry number carried over to later ships.
That being said, though, I think the next early AMT 18-incher I get will be christened USS Yamato, NCC-1305, just to be snarky.
That being said, though, I think the next early AMT 18-incher I get will be christened USS Yamato, NCC-1305, just to be snarky.
Well, we never saw or heard of another starship before "Court Martial". That episode established their existence, and outlined for us the (as we'd later find out) mid-23rd century Starfleet for the first time. "Where Silence Has Lease" could have given us our first solid data about the Galaxy class, perhaps establishing that each and every one of the vessels in that class has a suffix registry. Indeed, why waste any name less prestigious than that on a ship as impressive as that?
Like, when we saw "E-D", it was meaningless and annoying because we had not been told about the E-B and the E-C yet, and even "E-A" was such recent news that it hadn't yet been seen in all the locations that would air TNG?
If they only had been true to their word... But no, TOS era ship models were recycled shamelessly for early TNG, often complete with low registries.
Timo Saloniemi
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