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How Would You Rate This Short?


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It was cute.

The Discoverse version of the 23rd century will take some getting used to. Are we going with Discoverse? Kurtzmanverse? Something else?

I wish someone would teach them what turbolifts are and how they work.
I think they're calling it "Star Trek".
Turbolifts work however the scripts calls for them. Up and down. Back and forth. Loop de loop
 
Well they told a good story here.
but when you tell a good story, you don't have to explain everything but at least get the basics down.. so that people that might watch this as their first episode can understand the world of Trek.. if I was a new viewer and I saw jhim beam aboard and then saw him get trapped in a place in the same scene, I might be confused .. not everything needs to (or should be explained to anew viewer) but the things that could apply to the story at hand should be
 
but when you tell a good story, you don't have to explain everything but at least get the basics down.. so that people that might watch this as their first episode can understand the world of Trek.. if I was a new viewer and I saw jhim beam aboard and then saw him get trapped in a place in the same scene, I might be confused .. not everything needs to (or should be explained to anew viewer) but the things that could apply to the story at hand should be
They had 15 minutes. I think it's more important to get to the meat. New guy comes on board and gets trapped in an elevator with his superior officer. If you're confused it's gotta be a deeper problem.
 
I think they're calling it "Star Trek".
Turbolifts work however the scripts calls for them. Up and down. Back and forth. Loop de loop
Look no further than "The Enterprise Incident". At the end of the episode when Spock escorts the female Romulan Commander from the bridge to her guest quarters on deck 2, their awkward conversation in the turbolift takes about a minute. If the elevator in my apartment building took 60 seconds to travel one floor I'd scream bloody murder.

Turbolifts operate at the speed of plot. The Discoprise rolly-coaster vators are an extension of that operating principle. :devil:
 
The turbolift effect remains laugh-out-loud goofy.

I enjoyed this one. A very old fantasy scenario, charming soft-core porn.

Really weird, but adorable.
 
but when you tell a good story, you don't have to explain everything but at least get the basics down.. so that people that might watch this as their first episode can understand the world of Trek.. if I was a new viewer and I saw jhim beam aboard and then saw him get trapped in a place in the same scene, I might be confused .. not everything needs to (or should be explained to anew viewer) but the things that could apply to the story at hand should be

You could make that criticism about dozens of episodes, even of TNG-era series where on-board beaming is possible. The Naked Time. The Naked Now. The Big Good-bye. Eye of the Beholder. It's bizarre to single this episode out.
 
cut scene after this short trek

Jose Tyler: Un-- I mean, Number One, is it really necessary for us to sabotage the turbolift every time the Enterprise gets a new recruit just so you can intimidate them?

Number One: If you ever breathe another word about this, I'll throw you out an airlock. And turn the next yeoman into an alien. :mad:
 
Yeah. Highest Flamsteed-numbered star currently recorded for Pegasus is 89.

Some of the novels - like Diane Duane's? - went to the trouble of hinting at an expanded and revised Flamsteed numbering for all recognized constellations, of course...
 
^ Because site-to-site transport was not that safe in this era, it was only used in emergency situations, when the risk of not using it was greater than using it.
Una and Spock were not in any danger, so they could wait the fix out.

Edit: Now that I think of it, they could have beamed them directly to the transporter room, but why do that?
There was no medical emergency, no immediate threat from an attacker, they were not wanted at their stations, so why take even the minuscule risk of atomic disassembly/reassembly and not wait it out?
Also, it's just funny that Spock on his first day at his new fancy job is stuck in a turbolift.
 
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One thing Discovery and this Short Trek has done is that, before Discovery, we thought that Number One was just what Pike always called his first officer. Now, we see that she demands others call her Number One even though she has the name Una.

It honestly makes her character more unsettling...
 
Indeed, we can handle that bit properly out here. :vulcan:

Beaming within the ship is not a problem in the 2250s. It wasn't much of a problem in the 2150s, either (cf. the ploy where Archer is "executed" by the transporter"). And it is not a problem in the 2360s or 2370s. It only ever was a problem in a ship careening out of control at high warp at a time an alien was turning people to violent idiots...

Yet beaming folks out of a stuck turbolift is always a problem. We get turbolift tension in DS9 twice ("The Forsaken", "Crossfire") and in TNG once ("Disaster"), plus these times in DSC, and beaming out is never an option.

Might be turboshafts are handy spaces for putting the high cochranage plasma conduits in. Might be turbocabs are shielded since they double as lifepods (see ST:B). Might be Number One and the Chief Engineer have a good thing going with this "Ooh, the lift got stuck again!" trick - the XO isn't really busy dictating a report on that PADD, but carries it solely for signaling the Chief that the Ensign indeed is a looker (thanks, Yistaan).

Generally, I'd think the transporter would have no problems with accuracy anywhere: most targets require millimeter precision. But a starship would be a more demanding target than the average planetside palace or cave or jungle, with a much higher density of things that can fry you when you're a helpless blob of phased matter. So, you pick and choose your intraship transports, and generally you avoid them. But not when you are from the Mirror Universe and portraying a daredevil on this side, too!

Timo Saloniemi
 
And if transport ins't a remotely feasible option, it's obvious why the characters don't mention it, exactly as all the other unrealistic options, like, don't know, cutting the ship in two to get them out.
And from a narrative point of view, it's quite clear that this was a character piece, not a story focused on how they can get out of the lift.
 
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