New Project - The "Quad"

[MadMan1701A]

Hey, everybody...

I have had this idea tooling around in my head for a while, and I finally started sketching some stuff out tonight.

This isn't necessarily supposed to represent the "Quad" seen in the movie, but just my interpretation of it. I really don't like the ideas that show the saucer sliced off in places; it doesn't make sense to me why they would mass produce kitbashable parts, then change them.

Here's the pics...

All the green stuff and the pylons is temporary.

Another thing I'm going to do with this project... I plan on saving all the parts, separated, to use for more kitbashing.

What do you guys think?

 

[Kaiser]

Fasinating

 

[miraclefan]

SWEEEETTT! MadMan, you know I'm a fan of your work. This looks like another masterpiece!

 

[enan]

Nice so far..good balance ...more please...

 

[Kaziarl]

Another wonderful project as usual madman. Can't wait to see the finished product.

 

[MadMan1701A]

Thanks guys. The Constellation will be making a comeback as a result of this, as well.

 

[ShamelessMcBundy]

Looks good but the twin engineering hulls look too short compared to the nacelles.

 

[MadMan1701A]

Yeah, they are. They are just placeholders at the moment, so I can get the basic arrangement figured out. The ones I am planning will have a hull shape more like the TMP ship, but longer. I'm going for a newer than Kelvin, but Older than Enterprise look.

 

[GilmourD]

Thanks guys. The Constellation will be making a comeback as a result of this, as well.

You mean the Constellation class, i.e. the Stargazer?

 

[MadMan1701A]

Thanks guys. The Constellation will be making a comeback as a result of this, as well.

You mean the Constellation class, i.e. the Stargazer?

Nope, as in the USS Constellation, NCC-1017.

I had the idea a while back that maybe it wasn't the same class as Kirk's ship at all, but an older one in a similar configuration (going mainly by the registry number... it implies that it was quite a bit older than Enterprise).

I should have updates on both models, soon.

About Stargazer, though... I might make the "Quad" more similar to that layout... it might make more sense that what I have now. People might actually be able to move down into the Secondary Hulls.

 

[MadMan1701A]

OK, an update....

I'm going more in the Stargazer direction, now...

This arrangement seems "cleaner", as far as the kitbash goes. How does everyone like this idea?

 

[buzzknox]

I wish I had some form of skills in this area. I've had an idea for a multi-mission ship and this model would be the perfect basis for it. Unfortunately, all I know about modeling/computers is how to enjoy the fruits of other's labors.

 

[miraclefan]

OK, an update....

I'm going more in the Stargazer direction, now...

This arrangement seems "cleaner", as far as the kitbash goes. How does everyone like this idea?

DUUUDDEEE! THAT IS AAAWWWWSOME!

 

[Kaiser]

OK, an update....

I'm going more in the Stargazer direction, now...

This arrangement seems "cleaner", as far as the kitbash goes. How does everyone like this idea?

DUUUDDEEE! THAT IS AAAWWWWSOME!

Indeed

 

[Hyperspace05]

Ugh... Sorry to say it, but I hate the Stargazer layout. Ugh. Why would secondary hulls have an identical attachment as the warp nacelles?

Your original 'X' layout seemed much more appropriate for the Kelvin parts.

As for your original comment about this direction allowing people to move to and from the secondary hulls. How is this any different? The pylon thickness is the same. (Which incidentally still should leave plenty of room for several turbolift shafts and access shafts)

 

[sojourner]

^um, in the X layout the secondary hulls and the nacelles have identical hull arrangements as well.
As for this layout, you don't have to have strange angled turboshafts. It's not the thickness that is the problem, it's coming up with a turbo shaft that does not look awkward engineering wise. Check out some of the other threads here regarding the TOS E to see what I mean.

 

[Hyperspace05]

A fair point. (about the X style having identical pylons) But given the inertial dampeners and "gravity plating" I see no real engineering problem with a diagonal turbolift shaft.

I guess most of my dislike for the Stargazer approach is based on my opinion of the Stargazer as probably *the* ugliest canon federation starship design. But tastes differ.

 

[Prometheus]

that is very cool

 

[sojourner]

A fair point. (about the X style having identical pylons) But given the inertial dampeners and "gravity plating" I see no real engineering problem with a diagonal turbolift shaft.

Well, think of it this way. Try and design an elevator shaft that is angled into one of those pylons that
A) keeps the box shaped or cylinder shaped car upright
B) allows you to stop at different decks in the pylon
C) doesn't use excessive stair stepping
and
D) transitions smoothly to a standard vertical or horizontal turboshaft.

 

[Hyperspace05]

Well we're not dealing with 20th century elevator technology. Given that the turbolift cars are moving freely, I see no significant technical hurdles if one accepts the technology as demonstrated in the shows at face value.

As to your concerns...
A) Why does the car need to stay upright? What is 'up' on a starship? (hint: whatever you want it to be)
B) Why would you stop in the pylon?
C) Even if you stair-stepped (and why would you when you could go diagonal) - why not? Cars have inertial dampeners.
D) See C:.. inertial dampeners.