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Spoilers New Picard TV Series and Litverse Continuity (may contain TV show spoilers)

Ideally--and this is just me, I honestly don't know how many feel the same--I'd love to see the litverse continue as a parallel universe unaltered.

Well, of course I would like this, and continue to buy them. I just don't feel it's anywhere near likely enough to rise to the level of "possibility".

(Of course, then if it *does* happen, I would be rather pleasantly surprised. :) )
 
Then the novels can focus on the modern shows (and TOS), with new adventures aligned to the chain of events depicted onscreen. Win-Win

I don't get how it's a "win-win"? You're still throwing out a lot (pretty much all) of the current LitVerse to move on to Discovery/Picard.
 
I don't get how it's a "win-win"? You're still throwing out a lot (pretty much all) of the current LitVerse to move on to Discovery/Picard.

That is what I have always said.

A good business model says that S&S should concentrate on novels tiring into currently airing shows. There’s the chance of picking up new readers.

TOS novels will continue but I feel the litverse as we know it has come to an end.
 
Uh, I think it was Pocket who ended the Shatnerverse, not Shatner. Do you have any evidence for the claim that he “refused” to write any more Trek novels?
I remember Shatner lost his shit over the disclaimer being added to Collision Course, and I remember that was supposed to be the first book of a trilogy. I just assumed the reason why that trilogy never continued was because of his anger over that.
Has it been confirmed anywhere that they’re stopping tie-in fiction, and future books and comics are Alpha canon?
Ah...what? Tie-ins are still going to continue. IDW will still have new comics based on the other shows, there are new novels from S&S. That will not change. About the only thing that does have a question mark over it is the Litverse continuity that's been going on since 2001, and even that there's talk of "a plan." I have no idea what the hell "Alpha Canon" is, since Star Trek has only one canon.
 
At most, there is some limited coordination, in the sense that tie-ins to the new shows are making efforts to avoid contradicting what is onscreen. But this is purely on the tie-in side, and if the shows come up with a story that contradicts the tie-ins, the shows make no concern - the first Discovery novel featured Pike’s Enterprise and Spock interacting with Georgiou, Burnham, and the Shenzhou, and Michael and Spock going over ground they did in season two. The first arc of comics portrayed the Klingons entirely as they appeared in the first season, meaning bald, and the second arc portrayed Airiam as a non-human.

All these can be handwaved in some fashion or another, but the point is that the tie-ins must adhere to screen canon, and while screen canon will borrow if it wants, it is under no obligation to.
 
Has Star Trek ever considered a Lucasfilm Story Group style team that enforces a shared universe?

Why should it? That implies that they consider the books to be equal to the shows, in which case, they stop being “tie-ins.” Star Wars likes to pretend that it has a unified canon, but it is prone to disregarding the “lower” canons - anything not on screen - and handwaving things later. Just as a present example, Poe Dameron’s backstory was solidly established in many of the comics, and then TRoS threw out the idea of him smuggling drugs in his youth, so now there’s going to be a new book that explains the movie created hiccup. Whatever value there is in the concept of the book on its own, it is still something that’s been brought about because of a plot hole created by the movies not bothering to adhere to the events of the comics.

Star Trek doesn’t bother. There is no solidly unified “extended canon” outside of the shows, they don’t bind themselves to something established in material that reaches only a fraction of the audience. The books and the comics reach a smaller audience than the shows, end of story. They will never shackle themselves to the elements introduced in books or comics, and something like, say Star Trek Online, has different structural demands over any of the other media, requiring action and combat sequences. And both comics and books and video games have explored different versions of post-Nemesis Aloha Quadrant, all incompatible with what Picard is doing.

They don’t need a story group of any kind because this isn’t how Star Trek works. There is no illusion that Star Trek has any “canon” aside from what’s on screen.
 
No, I replied after reading this comment, which suggests they were going to blank slate everything.

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/new...tv-show-spoilers.295360/page-65#post-13233301
You misread what I was saying. Yes, they are going to "blank slate" things, at least as far as post Nemesis novels are concerned. No where did I claim that this was going to lead to novels now being canon.

My point was this is like the third time throwing out continuity has happened to Star Trek tie in fiction. Heck, during the late 80s/early 90s the novels weren't even allowed to reference each other, let alone have a continuity to "blank slate".

I was saying at least as Star Trek fans we have always known where we stand. The rights holders have always had a "Only what you see on screen is canon" policy, rather than misleading fans that the novels are held to the same levels as films.

So the opposite of what you thought I was saying.
 
^ Oh, much more than the third. Every new Star Trek production has negated previously written tie-in fiction, starting with Star Trek: The Motion Picture, which, in its very first scene, tossed out Spock Must Die! (which ended with the Klingons being restricted to their homeworld by the Organians and not being spacefaring anymore).
 
No, I replied after reading this comment, which suggests they were going to blank slate everything.

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/new...tv-show-spoilers.295360/page-65#post-13233301
Yeah, you've gotten this from other people now, but just to be clear - the job of tie-ins is to build on what's on screen. Trek tie-ins aren't canon, and they still won't be canon, but they are going to have to wipe away the current continuity (in some fashion) so that they stay consistent with what's on screen. I see your misunderstanding, since Star Wars killed the old EU and then claimed everything from now on is canon, but the two are separate decisions.
 
Didn't Star Wars Legends have about half a dozen separate interpretations of the mission to steal the Death Star plans before Rogue One laid a single story in stone for Disney-era canon?
 
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