What an odd thing to do.
Spoilers New Picard TV Series and Litverse Continuity (may contain TV show spoilers)
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Not possible, the shows and movies are the core elements of the franchise, so the books will have no choice but to acknowledge them in some manner, even if it's just to say we're not following this story.
This thought honestly never occurred to me, but would a cool way to handle it.
Personally, even though I know it's very, very, very unlikely to happen, I'm still going to hold out hope they'll let the Novelverse continue on as an alternate reality. We have gotten lots of alternate reality stories in the past, so it's not completely impossible. Ok, maybe there's like a .01% chance of it happening, but it's still a chance.
Presumably. But it's been stated "definitively" that the show takes place in 2398. 15 years before is 2383, so Admiral Picard's disastrous armada predates the events of that movie by four years. So I think it's something new we will find out when the show airs.
I'd be amazed if, after over twenty years, an on-screen Star Trek production finally realized you could say the Enterprise-E does things without them actually being depicted in a movie. Especially with Kurtzman's hand on the tiller.
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It may be that Countdown will be canon after all, and that Picard left Starfleet for ambassadorship 2383 as in Countdown. Why he didn't seem to be angsting in Countdown and is angsting now in the Picard show is his usual delayed reaction type thing like the 6 years between Best of Both Worlds and First Contact.
Other franchises do this too. It seems like the Avengers do nothing between Marvel movies, taken to extreme lengths when they wait to the last minute to extract Vision's mind stone.
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Has that been stated? All I've heard as a vague "twenty years later" which has lead to all sorts of speculation about whether that means twenty years after Nemesis or twenty years after AGT. If we assume that it's 2402 (fifteen years after 2387) then that's twenty-three years after Nemesis, which fits the vague definition of "twenty years later."
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"We are reviving a Picard story. It is exactly 19 years in the future, which is how time has passed since the last time I put on my space suit." - Patrick Stewart, The Graham Norton Show, February 8th
That's more exact than the usual 20 year line, and less likely to be approximated.
I'm looking at this way too. As you say, the current direction of the novels coming do look to be heading that way.
It doesn't have to link up, but if it did it would be rather neat. You could have Picard doing the whole 'one last adventure' thing, with Crusher and kid never mentioned.
All the wider political pieces the books have done, the state of the galaxy post-Hobus would likely be left to them. The sense I get from the trailer is that this will be more a character piece.
What I'd like to think is that just enough plot info was shared with Pocket Books so they could do some really smart tie-in material, instead of having to be reactive. Might be expecting a bit much, but newer Trek has been more coordinated than before too.
My current guess/prediction/theory is that the Romulans began a purge of the Reunification movement in 2383 (because Romulans be like that sometimes, or something) and that was Picard's rescue armada mission. The "unthinkable" is Hobus and that leaves Picard as saviour to the only surviving Romulan population of note.
Yeah, I'm not sure I'd take that as gospel yet. Stewart might just be applying how much time went by in the real world since Nemesis was released and thinking the same amount of time has gone by within the show.
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That's certainly a possibility too.
Everyone seems to be thinking the "coordination" that goes on between the studio and Pocket Books these days is more significant than it is. Just look at Disco, those novels are coordinated with the show's production staff with the authors visiting the set, meeting with the writers and even contributing to the show (David Mack named Detmer, for example). Yet, we see season 2 of Disco contradicted earlier Disco novels, most notably Desperate Hours. With Disco contradicting its own novels, there's no reason to expect Picard to stay consistent with Litverse continuity. I mean, just from the trailer alone we know Picard makes Admiral and in current novel continuity he's in a position where he's almost certainly never going to be promoted again.
Spoilers for TNG Available Light:
“The public doesn’t need another scandal right now,” said Akaar, still glaring at Picard, “and particularly not when it involves one of the genuine darlings of Starfleet. That’s you, in case you were wondering. So, we can’t do anything to you publicly, but here’s the reality: You can forget any thoughts or dreams about making admiral. I know you said you never wanted a promotion and you wanted to stay in command of the Enterprise. Well, this is for real now. Captain is the highest rank you’ll ever obtain.”
Suddenly an Ensign appeared with a PADD. Akaar read the message on it and a strange look passed over his features.
"Congratulations on your promotion Admiral Picard".
Suddenly an Ensign appeared with a PADD. Akaar read the message on it and a strange look passed over his features.
"Congratulations on your promotion Admiral Picard".
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So does that mean the promotion was a punishment (because Picard always said he wanted to stay a captain)? Or does that mean Akaar had no idea what he was talking about?
It's possible that Picard will do something - possibly in opposition to Akaar's wishes - that leads the UFP President to override Akaar's "do not promote Picard" directive.
Sorry I did not make it clear - I've edited it - the stuff in normal text is what is in the book and the now bold text is what I've added in light of the Picard trailer.
If anyone realistically thinks Alex Kurtzman will accede to anyone else's interpretation of Section 31, they are dreaming. For better or for worse, Section 31 is Kurtzman's baby!
For anyone not following me, consider how Into Darkness and Discovery alike depicted Section 31 as possessing their own capital ship(s). And how the depiction of being a structured Starfleet division arguably stands at odds with Deep Space Nine's depiction of Section 31 being dependent on disaggregation and stealth to get the job done. And that regular Starfleet members greatly respect Section 31, to say nothing of the admiralty (*cough* Marcus *cough*) making significant use of Section 31's resources, which are only barely hidden from public view. But does that matter to Kurtzman and co.? Nope. They love their Federation CIA running around in black uniforms, black badges, and black ships.
So ask yourself: What are the reasonable odds Picard would actually allow someone else's work to take Section 31 off the story table while Kurtzman is helming Trek?
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"What I said to you about the chances of further promotion back when the Section 31 story broke? It seems that the Federation Council has just directed me to make a liar of myself on that point, Picard...and under the present circumstances as explained to me by the Council? I can't find it in myself to resent the fact..."
20 years was said at the Vegas announcement, with Kurtzman right there.
But things might have changed since the initial announcement, they had just broken the story and didn't even have any scripts yet.
20 years may have been the ballpark number, an estimation, not the final number.
