It'll be in the Starfleet Academy series. Picard will be the school's Head.
That, or he'll be the leader of a colony on a far off planet.
That, or he'll be the leader of a colony on a far off planet.
Spoilers New Picard TV Series and Litverse Continuity (may contain TV show spoilers)
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Sure. Any combination is possible. My point is that I think the choices are going to be driven by business needs and probably not by what writers want or don't want.
Been thinking on this subject a bit. A common belief among many is that with Kirsten Beyer responsible for the show, and given her background with Pocket Books and the novel continuity that she'll make this show compatible with the novel continuity, thus keeping the continuity in tact. But the truth of the matter is, this decision won't be Beyer's to make, it'll be CBS calling the shots. And if they don't want the show consistent with novel continuity, then it won't be.
And I can very much see this being the case. First, there's the belief among corporations that "Issue 1" sells the best out of anything, and that's why comic franchises have so many reboots or relaunches or rebrandings, because Issue 1 will sell more copies than Issue 36. Now yes, there may be aspects of the show's backstory that may not get properly addressed in the show. The argument among some seems to be "might as well stick with what went on in the novels, they already exist and this can help sell more copies of them." But, I'm pretty certain CBS marketing folks are probably thinking "how can we use a new Trek TV series to sell new novels?" rather than "how can we use a new Trek TV series to sell more copies of novels from the 2000s?" With that in mind, I find it more likely that we'll get new tie-in novels to expand on the show's backstory rather than just reprint old novels so that viewers of the Picard Show will know what the Typhon Pact is or why the Borg are extinct or whatever. And since new audience is the key factor here, it seems less and less likely the new show and its tie-in novels are going to be novel continuity compatible.
And I can very much see this being the case. First, there's the belief among corporations that "Issue 1" sells the best out of anything, and that's why comic franchises have so many reboots or relaunches or rebrandings, because Issue 1 will sell more copies than Issue 36. Now yes, there may be aspects of the show's backstory that may not get properly addressed in the show. The argument among some seems to be "might as well stick with what went on in the novels, they already exist and this can help sell more copies of them." But, I'm pretty certain CBS marketing folks are probably thinking "how can we use a new Trek TV series to sell new novels?" rather than "how can we use a new Trek TV series to sell more copies of novels from the 2000s?" With that in mind, I find it more likely that we'll get new tie-in novels to expand on the show's backstory rather than just reprint old novels so that viewers of the Picard Show will know what the Typhon Pact is or why the Borg are extinct or whatever. And since new audience is the key factor here, it seems less and less likely the new show and its tie-in novels are going to be novel continuity compatible.
Plus the influence of the other writers and PS himself.
"So Picard is married to Beverly and has a child"
PS: Too obvious, I don't like it
"So Picard was never married to Beverly and never had a child".
I suspect you may be right. I have a feeling the novelverse will likely play little, if any role, in the storytelling of the new series. A shame in a way because I like where the novelverse is at and have become invested in the various storylines. I think Pocketbooks decided to do the relaunches partly because there was no real expectations that the spinoffs would continue on screen.
But yeah, I'd be real shocked even with Beyer on the team that they give the novel continuity any real thoughts in their stories. I'd love to be proved wrong. I don't think it has to be limiting. So Picard is married and has a son--there's a lot of potential stories involved with that. The Borg are gone but there are always challenges out there. And it's still about 12 years post the current timeframe of the novels so there's still a lot of directions they can go in without mothballing the current novel continuity.
Stewart is EP so presumably if he doesn’t like something it won’t make it in. They’ll have to keep him sweet
That sounds really bad it makes him sound like a spoilt brat who throws his toys out of the prom if he doesn’t get his way, I’m sure Sir Pat is a sweet guy
I just hope the Litverse can reach a good conclusion point and wrap up everything currently going, if it can’t roll with the new series in one way or another. The destruction of Romulus storyline seems like an obvious end point.
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BTW is it confirmed Kirsten Beyer will be on the staff of the new TNG series? If she is, then there is a slight possibility they will respect the current novel continuity. It seems with Discovery they are trying to keep everything tied together. They COULD do the same with TNG if they wanted to. It's still far enough in the future past the most recent novels that they could maintain a continuity but in such a way that it's not necessary to be familiar with the novels (they could have some passing reference to the end of the Borg, the Typhon Pact alliance--if it still exists after Romulus is destroyed, etc). Probably the main thing would be that he and Crusher were married and had a son, but that could help create some stories if they wanted something about his family.
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I suspect the launch of a new Prime time-line series, even one set 20 years after Nemesis will be the death knell of the current novelverse. Though, we could still see some elements of it in the new series...the Typhon Pact could make for an interesting new antagonist for 'old Picard' and the Federation.
Kirsten isn't just "on staff," she's credited as the series's co-creator. She's the prime mover behind this whole project.
In the ongoing 'litverse' thread I said that if Treklit is not just going to come to a hard stop you can't just hope the main parts of the E.U. will be folded in to the new show. The chances of that happening are minuscule.
It would be better to either have an ending with a full and explicit reset or to use the relationship with Kirsten inform the direction of the remaining books so they match with the new show if possible.
It would be better to either have an ending with a full and explicit reset or to use the relationship with Kirsten inform the direction of the remaining books so they match with the new show if possible.
Well my point was that he tends to quite a bit of influence over the character - the scripts for the films were radically altered at times to keep him happy and he was the driving force for stuff like the dune buggy scene.
That is before you add in the influence of the other writers, commentary from the studio and so on.
I really never expected new shows or movies to come along post Nemesis so I haven't given a lot of thought to the novelverse being wiped out by on screen Trek so on that point I was a little bummed at first. With the books starting up again I think it would be cool if they had some kind of wrapping up book series but somehow I'm not holding out hope for that.
Another issue is CBS is planning on having multiple Trek series so they can have it on all year on the CBS ALL or what ever it's called so it's not just the Picard series. It's what ever else they come up with that's going to trample the novelverse as well.
I'm sure what ever the series has going on the authors will come up with something cool to write about, they always have in the past.
Another issue is CBS is planning on having multiple Trek series so they can have it on all year on the CBS ALL or what ever it's called so it's not just the Picard series. It's what ever else they come up with that's going to trample the novelverse as well.
I'm sure what ever the series has going on the authors will come up with something cool to write about, they always have in the past.
It's great news that Beyer is a prime mover. I just started following this news a bit more closely when it was confirmed by Stewart (I had heard the prior bits and pieces but didn't pay much attention to it until now).
But that does increase the chances if she is a showrunner and not just on staff that they will at least consider the novel continuity.
Speaking of which--the announcement may have come to late but I wonder will anything about this new show factor into Dayton Ward's upcoming "Available Light" book? I suspect if (and it's a big if) they decide to respect the continuity in the novels that the showrunners may take a more active role in future TNG novels (and possibly Titan and DS9 novels) to keep them consistent with their new show.
I know on screen canon has never been beholden to the stories featured in the novels in the past. But I think some of the angst in this case is because there have been over 10 years worth of novels that have followed a pretty continuous storyline at least going back to the Genesis Wave books (about 15 years ago I believe). There are a lot of new characters and stories that have been created and have become important, to the credit of the authors I think. I'd just hate to see a new show come on that obliterates all that continuity.
But that does increase the chances if she is a showrunner and not just on staff that they will at least consider the novel continuity.
Speaking of which--the announcement may have come to late but I wonder will anything about this new show factor into Dayton Ward's upcoming "Available Light" book? I suspect if (and it's a big if) they decide to respect the continuity in the novels that the showrunners may take a more active role in future TNG novels (and possibly Titan and DS9 novels) to keep them consistent with their new show.
I know on screen canon has never been beholden to the stories featured in the novels in the past. But I think some of the angst in this case is because there have been over 10 years worth of novels that have followed a pretty continuous storyline at least going back to the Genesis Wave books (about 15 years ago I believe). There are a lot of new characters and stories that have been created and have become important, to the credit of the authors I think. I'd just hate to see a new show come on that obliterates all that continuity.
The more I think about it, even if there is the slightest chance this Picard series doesn’t cancel/reboot the post-Nemesis continuity, all the other shows that are inevitably coming will eventually. The days of Pocket having total creative freedom over the Trek universe are over. And they will be missed.
Yeah, it'd be a shame. I'd hate to see 10-15 years of continuity thrown out the window. The difference here is this isn't a one off book that could be cancelled, but 10 to 15 years worth of novels.
We'll see what happens here. Beyer being a showrunner could be huge if she decides to respect the continuity. Yeah, novel readers are a small bastion of Star Trek fans, but they are loyal. And I definitely think they could maintain continuity without hampering their creativity and in such a way that reading those novels is not necessary to enjoy the show. There are many ways they can satisfy old and new fans without having to sacrifice one for the other.
It would be a shame if the existing continuity in the novels were to end.
But at the end of the day, the authors we know and love will still be writing Trek novels so it’ll be OK.
But at the end of the day, the authors we know and love will still be writing Trek novels so it’ll be OK.
Well the books have been being printed for, almost all the 50 years of the show, even comics etc. A new tv series, movie etc comes along, and the stuff thats been written is now in the dust bin of history. Now if they continued the odd novel format, it wouldn't be a problem with a new series, but 10 years ago, they decided to go with a general arc series, with big things happening, and having reprecusions on other novels.
Now, the new Picard show might follow the books, but you would have to explain what happened in the books, In Series. Especially the Caelar/Destiny saga. Thats why I wish they'd do an Animated mini series of that saga, you can do all the voices and not have to worry about "Age" of the actors.
You can't have a TV audience Have to read/watch another series.. it has to be self contained in some way.
Now, the new Picard show might follow the books, but you would have to explain what happened in the books, In Series. Especially the Caelar/Destiny saga. Thats why I wish they'd do an Animated mini series of that saga, you can do all the voices and not have to worry about "Age" of the actors.
You can't have a TV audience Have to read/watch another series.. it has to be self contained in some way.
