TOS Klingons were smart enough to venture into space.Heh - they slew the space gods and stole their chariots.
Maybe they still had all their spacecraft before they turned into TNG Klingons.
New or Old Klingons?
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Maybe they still had all their spacecraft before they turned into TNG Klingons.
Do you mean to suggest that the TOS era Klingons weren't largely one-note?!?
I've been wondering if that video was real for a while now. I saw it a long time ago late at night and wasn't sure if I hadn't dreamed the whole thing. It's really fantastic.
The TOS Klingons had nothing going for them aside from good actors (Jon Colicos and Ansara) in bland roles and that we didn't see them very much.
Indeed. I was rather confused by the remarks that the JJ Klingons were scary again... Khan wiped out the entire recon group ON HIS OWN! On their own turf! That's not particularly formidable, intimidating, or scary.
Kang and Kor were both capable of being sinister and intimidating, but they also had a higher measure of introversion, thoughtfulness, and consideration to their actions. Kor and Kang are also very distinct from one another.
The only time the Klingons seemed really alien and scary to me was at the beginning of TMP.
I think the best TOS Klingon was Kor. Colicos wasn't a big guy, but he could play cold and ruthless, intimidating. Ansara was a warrior, more like the later Klingons. Koloth was a joke, but that was how he was written.
For later Klingons, to me there is none better than Martok. Hertzler's portrayal was like an onion. Layers, lots of layers.
For later Klingons, to me there is none better than Martok. Hertzler's portrayal was like an onion. Layers, lots of layers.
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I'm in!
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Reminds me, for another novel carry-over, I'd like to have met a memorable agent or two (or even an Operations Master) of Imperial Intelligence in TNG / DS9. The Cardassians had the Obsidian Order, Romulans the Tal Shiar, and Section 31 for the Feds. Where's the Klingon equivalent?
Maybe The Klingons didn't need one as they were all so very loyal to their Chancellor!
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Dumb question but was it ever explained how their metamorphosis from TOS took place?
When Worf was asked in "Trials and Tribble-ations", doesn't he say something it is not something we talk about. I thought that was a lame too easy out for the writers.
My assumption was some kind of genetic engineering to make their appearance more savage and fierce and instill fear in their enemies (which is pretty much every other race and sometime themselves).
When Worf was asked in "Trials and Tribble-ations", doesn't he say something it is not something we talk about. I thought that was a lame too easy out for the writers.
My assumption was some kind of genetic engineering to make their appearance more savage and fierce and instill fear in their enemies (which is pretty much every other race and sometime themselves).
Yeah, and that TOS Klingons are the mutations.
You really have no sense of humor whatsoever, do you?
You REALLY don't know me.Yeah, and that TOS Klingons are the mutations.
You really have no sense of humor whatsoever, do you?
Call me whatever, but when I see a Klingon I know it's a Klingon. Doesn't matter to me if he has ridges or not, and I don't really need an explanation.
They could have easily explained the difference by saying that the Smooths and Chunkies were from different parts of the planet, and one race conquered the other. Either way, it makes me no difference. Klingons are Klingons, and they're fun.
They could have easily explained the difference by saying that the Smooths and Chunkies were from different parts of the planet, and one race conquered the other. Either way, it makes me no difference. Klingons are Klingons, and they're fun.