New Movie Wish List

[Sharr Khan]

Don't give me that BS. Abrams and his team were NOT involved in the creation of Trek.
He didn't come up with the idea.
He didn't develop that idea.
He had NOTHING to do with what made Trek the eventual success it became.
He is just riding the coattails of someone else's hard work.
Say what you want about Berman and Braga but at least they attempted to do something new. With the exception of the title, the words Enterprise and a few familiar alien races, they have tried to do something NEW.
I hope you and everyone else has fun with these fucking remakes, but I cannot stand them.

AS much as I liked some things about Enterprise, trust me the only attempt at originality was the calender date, oh and the interior of the the NX-01. Most of it could have been done in the 24th Century. Originality isn't a thought I'd link to Enterprise...

I notice how you bypassed the examples I gave of others doing related *original* works based on established material. "The Wiz", "Wicked" - both a book and a broadway show using your standards these works would be considered "retreads" or "remakes" (Once again as far as I know JJ isn't reshooting "The Cage" so this is no remake...) just because L Frank Baum didn't have a hand in it. Sorry your concept of orginility is way limited for my tastes.

He didn't come up with the idea.

Neither did Meyer or Bennett or even Berman...

He didn't develop that idea.

Hmm... no dice, he did develop an idea based or inspired on a previous work - We'll be seeing it very soon.

He had NOTHING to do with what made Trek the eventual success it became.

But he will more then likely have something to do with the success that Star Trek is going to BECOME! Deal with it.

He is just riding the coattails of someone else's hard work.

No I'm pretty sure this movies gonna sink or swim on its own merits. If it sucks it will bomb. If however it recapture the spirit of ToS we are all so much the better for it.

they have tried to do something NEW.

Remember its how you do it that matters, what artistic choices you make that makes something "new"... this will likely not be like any Trek you've seen before. It will be NEW in countless ways. Simply "Moving ahead to the 30th and half Century on whatever ship with whatever crew" isn't NEW that is closer to a rehash and something we've seen over and over again...

I hope you and everyone else has fun with these fucking remakes, but I cannot stand them.

Thanks will but this isn't a "remake" its a continution adding the layers of an established universe - or did you miss the part with the original "Spock" being in this film?

Sharr

 

[blakbyrd]

Alien Races: Orions and other familiar groups.

Plot Elements: Academy days; space exploration; rescue missions.

 

[Stardate]

I voted for Space exploration, Rescue missions and maybe also a love story wouldn't hurt anyone.
Regarding aliens well maybe Klingon's with smilier screen time as in TMP but i really want more Human/Vulcan story with some unknown enemy..

 

[Tamek]

Sharr Khan said:

Don't give me that BS. Abrams and his team were NOT involved in the creation of Trek.
He didn't come up with the idea.
He didn't develop that idea.
He had NOTHING to do with what made Trek the eventual success it became.
He is just riding the coattails of someone else's hard work.
Say what you want about Berman and Braga but at least they attempted to do something new. With the exception of the title, the words Enterprise and a few familiar alien races, they have tried to do something NEW.
I hope you and everyone else has fun with these fucking remakes, but I cannot stand them.

AS much as I liked some things about Enterprise, trust me the only attempt at originality was the calender date, oh and the interior of the the NX-01. Most of it could have been done in the 24th Century. Originality isn't a thought I'd link to Enterprise...

I notice how you bypassed the examples I gave of others doing related *original* works based on established material. "The Wiz", "Wicked" - both a book and a broadway show using your standards these works would be considered "retreads" or "remakes" (Once again as far as I know JJ isn't reshooting "The Cage" so this is no remake...) just because L Frank Baum didn't have a hand in it. Sorry your concept of orginility is way limited for my tastes.

He didn't come up with the idea.

Neither did Meyer or Bennett or even Berman...

He didn't develop that idea.

Hmm... no dice, he did develop an idea based or inspired on a previous work - We'll be seeing it very soon.

He had NOTHING to do with what made Trek the eventual success it became.

But he will more then likely have something to do with the success that Star Trek is going to BECOME! Deal with it.

He is just riding the coattails of someone else's hard work.

No I'm pretty sure this movies gonna sink or swim on its own merits. If it sucks it will bomb. If however it recapture the spirit of ToS we are all so much the better for it.

they have tried to do something NEW.

Remember its how you do it that matters, what artistic choices you make that makes something "new"... this will likely not be like any Trek you've seen before. It will be NEW in countless ways. Simply "Moving ahead to the 30th and half Century on whatever ship with whatever crew" isn't NEW that is closer to a rehash and something we've seen over and over again...

I hope you and everyone else has fun with these fucking remakes, but I cannot stand them.

Thanks will but this isn't a "remake" its a continution adding the layers of an established universe - or did you miss the part with the original "Spock" being in this film?

Sharr

When I was in college, we had this cannon on campus

and people would paint it

no one ever peeled off the old paint, we'd just add layers of paint every few weeks

it would be something a little different, a little newer, but it would still be our school cannon under the hood

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Say what you want about Berman and Braga but at least they attempted to do something new.

They may have intended to do something new with ENT, but they utterly failed. When they turned the whole thing over to Coto in the fourth season, HE actually managed to create something that felt "new" in the sense of being authentically in the 22nd C (Berman's ENT was just the 24th C, regardless of how much he told us otherwise - storytelling is about showing, not telling).

Coto's ENT also felt true to the timeline of TOS, as tho it would segue nicely into the story of Kirk, Spock, etc., which Berman never managed to convey in the least. If Abrams can do something like that, then I'll be happy.

 

[T'Cal]

Sharr Khan said:

Don't give me that BS. Abrams and his team were NOT involved in the creation of Trek.
He didn't come up with the idea.
He didn't develop that idea.
He had NOTHING to do with what made Trek the eventual success it became.
He is just riding the coattails of someone else's hard work.
Say what you want about Berman and Braga but at least they attempted to do something new. With the exception of the title, the words Enterprise and a few familiar alien races, they have tried to do something NEW.
I hope you and everyone else has fun with these fucking remakes, but I cannot stand them.

AS much as I liked some things about Enterprise, trust me the only attempt at originality was the calender date, oh and the interior of the the NX-01. Most of it could have been done in the 24th Century. Originality isn't a thought I'd link to Enterprise...

I notice how you bypassed the examples I gave of others doing related *original* works based on established material. "The Wiz", "Wicked" - both a book and a broadway show using your standards these works would be considered "retreads" or "remakes" (Once again as far as I know JJ isn't reshooting "The Cage" so this is no remake...) just because L Frank Baum didn't have a hand in it. Sorry your concept of orginility is way limited for my tastes.

He didn't come up with the idea.

Neither did Meyer or Bennett or even Berman...

He didn't develop that idea.

Hmm... no dice, he did develop an idea based or inspired on a previous work - We'll be seeing it very soon.

He had NOTHING to do with what made Trek the eventual success it became.

But he will more then likely have something to do with the success that Star Trek is going to BECOME! Deal with it.

He is just riding the coattails of someone else's hard work.

No I'm pretty sure this movies gonna sink or swim on its own merits. If it sucks it will bomb. If however it recapture the spirit of ToS we are all so much the better for it.

they have tried to do something NEW.

Remember its how you do it that matters, what artistic choices you make that makes something "new"... this will likely not be like any Trek you've seen before. It will be NEW in countless ways. Simply "Moving ahead to the 30th and half Century on whatever ship with whatever crew" isn't NEW that is closer to a rehash and something we've seen over and over again...

I hope you and everyone else has fun with these fucking remakes, but I cannot stand them.

Thanks will but this isn't a "remake" its a continution adding the layers of an established universe - or did you miss the part with the original "Spock" being in this film?

Sharr

What he said! I couldn't have said it better. I don't understand how people can despise a movie that hasn't even been released, let alone has had even one frame put to film. How can a reasonable person hate something that they know so little about?

Are Paramount and JJA doing everything I want them to do? Probably not. Could they be headed in a direction that has the potential to be successful, even great? Yes. I'll give these guys a chance. I'll actually go see the film and judge it on its own merits before I make any decision as to its quality. Isn't that one of the messages that Roddenberry wanted us to get from Trek? You know, the one about preconceived notions? Those who have written off this film seem to have completely missed that point. Pity. Perhaps viewing TOS's "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" or any other Trek episode dealing with prejudice would help bring this concept into perspective.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

MattJC said:
Don't give me that BS. Abrams and his team were NOT involved in the creation of Trek.
He didn't come up with the idea.
He didn't develop that idea.
He had NOTHING to do with what made Trek the eventual success it became.

Neither did you, so there's really no reason they should concern themselves with what you think Trek should be rather than what they think it should be.

 

[Holytomato]

The Maltese Falcon with Bogart was a remake.

Oh ya, Star Trek: Enterprise was a ripoff of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.

The Starfleet Uniforms, story arcs, The Romulan War, The episode with Renee who played Odo.

Remember, in trashing Deep Space Nine, you must trash...Enterprise. :thumbsup:

Star Trek is Hornblower in Space. My how original.

My wish for the new movie that it be thought provoking, entertaining, make me look at Star Trek in a whole new way, include a new alien, and have M'Ress (puuuuuuuuuuuuuuurr), Tellerites, and Andorians. :thumbsup:

 

[number6]

My wishlist:

A jumbo popcorn
Large Coke
Box of Sno-Caps
Possibly some chicken fingers.

 

[Broccoli]

Number6 said:
My wishlist:

A jumbo popcorn
Large Coke
Box of Sno-Caps
Possibly some chicken fingers.

and a corroded artery as well, apparently!

 

[number6]

Broccoli said:

Number6 said:
My wishlist:

A jumbo popcorn
Large Coke
Box of Sno-Caps
Possibly some chicken fingers.

and a corroded artery as well, apparently!

Gotta carbo load for all the knicker twisting this film will undoubtedly cause.

 

[Sharr Khan]

and have M'Ress

Now that I might consider as a wish for Trek XI!

Sharr

 

[SeamusShameless]

I wouldn't mind seeing M'Ress realized in live-action there's always room in Star Trek for a hot chick in a cat suit.

 

[Sulu_Love_child]

I would love to see a fresh story with the characters we know and their quirks. An old style TOS feel with a riveting story and plenty of suspense. Some early scenes of the academy years with plenty of space exploration, a rescue mission in the middle or towards the end of the movie. A romance involving one of the major characters...

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I want the Farragut "Obsession" backstory. It would make a great opening sequence.

 

[Barbados Slim]

Explore stange new worlds in the first act.

Spock romance in the second act.

Rescue wiz-bang battle showdown in the third act.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Young Uhura doing a naked fan dance.