New Making of TMP book

[Khan 2.0]

Hello friends, this is Lukas Kendall. I helped with the publication of Preston Neal Jones's long-lost book...

Thanks for popping in. I've enjoyed what I read so far and am glad that more people will have the opportunity to purchase the book. LLAP

yes same for me. Enjoyed reading the opening and closing words in the book from Lukas, summed it all up perfectly

 

[NewHorizon]

I can understand a limited physical run, but why not allow more people to enjoy the book with an e-release? Are they adamant about not doing an e-release?

 

[doubleohfive]

It just rubbed me the wrong way that they made a point of stating they were going to do X, and then did Y instead. The fact that Y is actually my preferred outcome is irrelevant.

Well, not to be a dick, but that's your problem to deal with, not anyone else's. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill, where none need be made.

If that is the case, that was not made clear on their ordering page.

Source: http://creaturefeatures.com/shop/books/returntotomorrow/

Nothing is said about first printings or second printings. The implication is there will be no more than 1000 available ever.

So what? Things change all the time, especially when it comes to business. What may be the immutable reality one day could be the diametric opposite the next.

As Lukas and IndySolo have stated, the publishers had no way of knowing how well the book was going to sell and didn't want to sink a small fortune into product that might never sell. Clearly they had no idea that the book would be so popular, and when it did sell out and there was still demand for it, they made the sensible and justified choice to order another printing. It's not rocket science.

 

[Therin of Andor]

I can understand a limited physical run, but why not allow more people to enjoy the book with an e-release? Are they adamant about not doing an e-release?

I've known of people attempting to self-publish their own eBook, only to not break even. It can be just as risky as print, but without the garage full of unsold boxes.

 

[Avro Arrow]

It just rubbed me the wrong way that they made a point of stating they were going to do X, and then did Y instead. The fact that Y is actually my preferred outcome is irrelevant.

Well, not to be a dick, but that's your problem to deal with, not anyone else's. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill, where none need be made.

It wasn't my original intent, but you're right. Consider it dropped.

My question about the possibility of future availability on Amazon still stands, though.

I can understand a limited physical run, but why not allow more people to enjoy the book with an e-release?

Or this. I'd be willing to buy an ebook version, since then presumably there would be no delivery charge involved. (I believe someone upthread mentioned there were no pictures involved, right?)

 

[JD]

Pictures wouldn't effect it being an e-book. Comic book trades are available in e-book formats, and so are the making of books for movies like The Hobbit and The Hunger Games trilogy and those are filled with high quality color pictures.

 

[Avro Arrow]

^ I was just wondering, because I read eBooks on a Kobo Touch. Pictures would still display, but they wouldn't be in colour.

 

[Therin of Andor]

^ I was just wondering, because I read eBooks on a Kobo Touch. Pictures would still display, but they wouldn't be in colour.

The Magic of Tribbles: The Making of the 'Deep Space Nine' episode, 'Trials and Tribble-ations' is an eBook exclusive that includes colour photographs.

 

[Defcon]

^ Which has nothing to do with what Avro Arrow said. There could be thousands of color photos in an eBook, eInk readers would display them in black/white anyway.

 

[DimesDan]

^Indeed, my Nook, although it allows images to be used (front covers and the like normally) they only appear in black and white.

 

[Christopher]

^ Which has nothing to do with what Avro Arrow said. There could be thousands of color photos in an eBook, eInk readers would display them in black/white anyway.

Right... like how TOS was a color show but I had to watch it in black-and-white as a kid because I didn't have a color set. (And of course the colors for a lot of things in TOS -- including the uniforms and Spock's skin tone -- were selected based on how they looked on black-and-white sets.)

 

[Therin of Andor]

^ Which has nothing to do with what Avro Arrow said. There could be thousands of color photos in an eBook, eInk readers would display them in black/white anyway.

Of course, but it also seemed that someone was saying that eBooks couldn't have colour pics. I interpreted the statement incorrectly, but surely no harm done?

 

[Mytran]

No apologies needed here, you put me onto an excellent E-book, thanks!

 

[Therin of Andor]

No apologies needed here, you put me onto an excellent E-book, thanks!

Thanks! "The Magic of Tribbles" is definitely one of Pocket Books' little eSecrets.

 

[Khan 2.0]

just to say theres a lengthy interview with the author in this months uk Infinity magazine (https://infinitymagazine.co.uk/product/infinity-issue-28-star-trek-the-motion-picture/ ). flicked through and read abit in the supermarket on my weekly grocery shop (will probably buy it next time).. and he goes into detail of the research and writing of the lost Cinefantastique double issue and later its resurrection as the Creature Feature book. (one particular funny anecdote is about his final interview with Shatner at Shatners favourite restaurant, they finish the meal and thinking of desert so shatner asks him 'do you like chocolate?' the author says yes and shatner tells the waiter 'you know what to bring him'...and then comes out shatners favourite desert the most decadent melted chocolate cake the guy had ever seen which he tucked into as shatner watched finally allowing himself one spoonful as he was still on his strict diet for TMP even though filming had finished as he still had all the press publicity tours to do and didnt want to put any weight on for the journalists to go on the attack lol)

 

[Khan 2.0]

just to say theres a lengthy interview with the author in this months uk Infinity magazine (https://infinitymagazine.co.uk/product/infinity-issue-28-star-trek-the-motion-picture/ ). flicked through and read abit in the supermarket on my weekly grocery shop (will probably buy it next time).. and he goes into detail of the research and writing of the lost Cinefantastique double issue and later its resurrection as the Creature Feature book. (one particular funny anecdote is about his final interview with Shatner at Shatners favourite restaurant, they finish the meal and thinking of desert so shatner asks him 'do you like chocolate?' the author says yes and shatner tells the waiter 'you know to bring him'...and then comes out shatners favourite desert the most decadent melted chocolate cake the guy had ever seen which he tucked into as shatner watched finally allowing himself one spoonful as he was still on his strict diet for TMP even though filming had finished as he still had all the press publicity tours to do and didnt want to put any weight on for the journalists to go on the attack lol)

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[Koric]

Not my post but from @Therin of Andor

After FIVE solid years of requesting and begging for this book to be released as ebook on Amazon it's finally here:

I wanted to repost this for all the old posters who wanted this in an ebook as well:

Return to Tomorrow: The Filming of Star Trek: The Motion Picture byIan McLean, on Flickr

Via Lucas Kendall today: “Hello folks! With the print edition almost sold out, Creature Features now presents the long-awaited e-book of Preston Neal Jones' “Return to Tomorrow”, the oral history of ST:TMP! At a very affordable price of $9.99.”

The one TMP fans have been asking about! The one that was originally slated for a 1980 double-issue of “Cinefantastique” - but now so much more! (Note: Still no photos; they were taken for "Cinefantastique" magazine by their own photographer, and are no longer available as a collection of Paramount-approved images.)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08C9BPK5N

Last edited: Jul 3, 2020

All the thanks and my thanks goes to @Therin of Andor

I also purchased the ebook at $9.99. Its is a fantastic time capsule and treasure trove of the thoughts of the actors, producers, and filmmaker on STAR TREK TMP in 1979. The ebook is a whopping 944 pages too.

Just a heads up and enjoy all,
-Koric

 

[Therin of Andor]

my thanks goes to @Therin of Andor

My pleasure. Within hours of Lucas's post on the ST: TMP Appreciation Society Facebook page, that second printing of the hardcopy version of “Return to Tomorrow” did sell out. Now it's only the eBook.

For anyone wanting some stunning pics to go with the amazing text of Preston Neal Jones' "Return to Tomorrow", I would recommend the new "Star Trek: The Motion Picture: Inside The Art & Visual Effects" hardcover by Jeff Bond and Gene Kozicki. In fact, the Bond & Kozicki book uses quotes from the former.