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We need this petition!! Have you ever thought...what was Gene's vision...where are those lose scripts....what would that look like....some of the greatest characters in TNG where they came from... I think we need to Produce Gene Roddenberry’s Lost "Star Trek: Phase II" Scripts as a Live-Action Mini-Series
The Petition Goal:
To urge Paramount Pictures and Secret Hideout to officially produce the 13 unfilmed scripts from the canceled 1977 television series Star Trek: Phase II as a limited, live-action historical mini-series event.
Petition Description:
To Paramount Pictures, Secret Hideout, and the Custodians of the Star Trek Franchise:
In 1977, Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry was weeks away from filming a brand-new television series: Star Trek: Phase II. It was designed to bring the USS Enterprise back to television for a second five-year mission. Full-scale sets were constructed, costumes were tailored, and a brilliant writers' room fully completed 13 episode scripts and detailed story outlines.
At the last second, Paramount canceled the series to pivot toward cinema, converting the pilot into Star Trek: The Motion Picture. While the movie became a classic, a tragic consequence followed: a massive portion of Gene Roddenberry’s lost work was locked in a vault, entirely unproduced.
These 13 scripts represent a fascinating, missing evolutionary step in science fiction history. They contain the original blueprints for characters that would later inspire Commander Riker, Counselor Troi, and Captain Picard. They feature brilliant, thought-provoking stories written by sci-fi icons like Alan Dean Foster, David Gerrold, and Roddenberry himself.
We, the fans, are officially petitioning Paramount to rescue these scripts from the archives and adapt them into a premium, live-action limited mini-series event.
With modern television's high-production standards, a limited series could recast these iconic 1970s eras of Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty, and the introduction of Captain Willard Decker. Producing "The Lost Season" wouldn't just be an incredible retro-sci-fi event for television audiences—it would be a vital act of preservation, honoring the legacy, vision, and lost work of Gene Roddenberry.
Let us see the stories that were meant to change television in 1977. Let us finish the mission.
Boldly Go. Sign and share to make Star Trek: Phase II a reality
 
No. Its’ time has come and gone. Let it rest in peace.
I appreciate the sentiment, really I do! But you can obviously see with Discovery and Strange new Worlds the heart and soul of ST is soo alive! And to b able to see Kitumba or Tomorrow and the Stars and those scripts we don't actually know about...so see new life in this...modern an recreative....we literally have all the crews recasted an living old stories we only heard of in OST I think this is the perfect opportunity and audience to finally get those stories out there!!
 
I appreciate the sentiment, really I do! But you can obviously see with Discovery and Strange new Worlds the heart and soul of ST is soo alive!

No, it's not, because those shows have been cancelled, along with all their other shows, and there are no signs that anything else is in production. So it's more dead than alive.

CBS/Paramount/Skydance/whoever doesn't give a crap about online petitions. Sorry to burst your optimistic bubble.
 
Do those scripts actually exist somewhere (other than "The Child"?) I thought they were just treatments. If they exist, I would love to see them compiled in a book, perhaps with artists' renderings of ideas for visuals-- for many of the reasons OP stated. Celebrating the vision, exploring a lost chapter, etc. But while I appreciate OP's enthusiasm, I wouldn't want to see them made today as actual shows. New ST productions (if that's a thing anymore) should be indeed new, and forward-looking.
 
I appreciate the sentiment, really I do! But you can obviously see with Discovery and Strange new Worlds the heart and soul of ST is soo alive! And to b able to see Kitumba or Tomorrow and the Stars and those scripts we don't actually know about...so see new life in this...modern an recreative....we literally have all the crews recasted an living old stories we only heard of in OST I think this is the perfect opportunity and audience to finally get those stories out there!!
Kitumba was made as a fan film many years ago, as was "The Child"
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We need this petition!! Have you ever thought...what was Gene's vision...where are those lose scripts....what would that look like....some of the greatest characters in TNG where they came from... I think we need to Produce Gene Roddenberry’s Lost "Star Trek: Phase II" Scripts as a Live-Action Mini-Series
The Petition Goal:
To urge Paramount Pictures and Secret Hideout to officially produce the 13 unfilmed scripts from the canceled 1977 television series Star Trek: Phase II as a limited, live-action historical mini-series event.
Petition Description:
To Paramount Pictures, Secret Hideout, and the Custodians of the Star Trek Franchise:
In 1977, Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry was weeks away from filming a brand-new television series: Star Trek: Phase II. It was designed to bring the USS Enterprise back to television for a second five-year mission. Full-scale sets were constructed, costumes were tailored, and a brilliant writers' room fully completed 13 episode scripts and detailed story outlines.
At the last second, Paramount canceled the series to pivot toward cinema, converting the pilot into Star Trek: The Motion Picture. While the movie became a classic, a tragic consequence followed: a massive portion of Gene Roddenberry’s lost work was locked in a vault, entirely unproduced.
These 13 scripts represent a fascinating, missing evolutionary step in science fiction history. They contain the original blueprints for characters that would later inspire Commander Riker, Counselor Troi, and Captain Picard. They feature brilliant, thought-provoking stories written by sci-fi icons like Alan Dean Foster, David Gerrold, and Roddenberry himself.
We, the fans, are officially petitioning Paramount to rescue these scripts from the archives and adapt them into a premium, live-action limited mini-series event.
With modern television's high-production standards, a limited series could recast these iconic 1970s eras of Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty, and the introduction of Captain Willard Decker. Producing "The Lost Season" wouldn't just be an incredible retro-sci-fi event for television audiences—it would be a vital act of preservation, honoring the legacy, vision, and lost work of Gene Roddenberry.
Let us see the stories that were meant to change television in 1977. Let us finish the mission.
Boldly Go. Sign and share to make Star Trek: Phase II a reality

No. I like your enthusiasm but NO MORE RECASTS. They can repurpose the stories for something else. These prequels are NOT working Out well. Im glad Paramount has decided to ditch all the old characters now and is starting fresh. If it doesn't work out it doesn't work out. Maybe they can use those stories for the new characters.....
 
Thing is, a few of the scripts have been used over the years. As noted, Phase 2's pilot because TMP, The Child and Devil's Due ended up being done on TNG. I have to think if the other scripts were never touched in the fifty years since they were written, there's probably a reason for that.

Besides, even if Paramount were to consider revisiting the idea of Phase II, and by that I mean taking a look at Kirk's second five year mission commanding the Enterprise, it most certainly would not be a 1:1 representation of what was planned for Phase 2. For starters, they'd have to acknowledge TMP and work from there. More likely we'd get something SNW like, which takes the concept and ideas and setting of Phase 2 but does something new and modern.

But ultimately, the current era of Star Trek is coming to an end. After SNW and SFA end next year there's no plans at all besides some nebulous movie which even the ones working on it don't believe is guaranteed to happen, but even if it does it's reportedly supposed to be laying down new ground for the franchise. Phase 2, like it or not, is only going to be one of those what ifs in the history of the Trek franchise.
 
Do those scripts actually exist somewhere (other than "The Child"?) I thought they were just treatments. If they exist, I would love to see them compiled in a book, perhaps with artists' renderings of ideas for visuals-- for many of the reasons OP stated. Celebrating the vision, exploring a lost chapter, etc. But while I appreciate OP's enthusiasm, I wouldn't want to see them made today as actual shows. New ST productions (if that's a thing anymore) should be indeed new, and forward-looking.
A bunch of them are available online. I even took a crack at adapting “Deadlock” as an episode of my fanfic earlier this year.
 
I appreciate the sentiment, really I do! But you can obviously see with Discovery and Strange new Worlds the heart and soul of ST is soo alive! And to b able to see Kitumba or Tomorrow and the Stars and those scripts we don't actually know about...so see new life in this...modern an recreative....we literally have all the crews recasted an living old stories we only heard of in OST I think this is the perfect opportunity and audience to finally get those stories out there!!
Nobody who isn’t a deep-cut Star Trek die-hard will care.
 
We need this petition!! Have you ever thought...what was Gene's vision...where are those lose scripts....what would that look like....some of the greatest characters in TNG where they came from... I think we need to Produce Gene Roddenberry’s Lost "Star Trek: Phase II" Scripts as a Live-Action Mini-Series
The Petition Goal:
To urge Paramount Pictures and Secret Hideout to officially produce the 13 unfilmed scripts from the canceled 1977 television series Star Trek: Phase II as a limited, live-action historical mini-series event.
Petition Description:
To Paramount Pictures, Secret Hideout, and the Custodians of the Star Trek Franchise:
In 1977, Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry was weeks away from filming a brand-new television series: Star Trek: Phase II. It was designed to bring the USS Enterprise back to television for a second five-year mission. Full-scale sets were constructed, costumes were tailored, and a brilliant writers' room fully completed 13 episode scripts and detailed story outlines.
At the last second, Paramount canceled the series to pivot toward cinema, converting the pilot into Star Trek: The Motion Picture. While the movie became a classic, a tragic consequence followed: a massive portion of Gene Roddenberry’s lost work was locked in a vault, entirely unproduced.
These 13 scripts represent a fascinating, missing evolutionary step in science fiction history. They contain the original blueprints for characters that would later inspire Commander Riker, Counselor Troi, and Captain Picard. They feature brilliant, thought-provoking stories written by sci-fi icons like Alan Dean Foster, David Gerrold, and Roddenberry himself.
We, the fans, are officially petitioning Paramount to rescue these scripts from the archives and adapt them into a premium, live-action limited mini-series event.
With modern television's high-production standards, a limited series could recast these iconic 1970s eras of Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Scotty, and the introduction of Captain Willard Decker. Producing "The Lost Season" wouldn't just be an incredible retro-sci-fi event for television audiences—it would be a vital act of preservation, honoring the legacy, vision, and lost work of Gene Roddenberry.
Let us see the stories that were meant to change television in 1977. Let us finish the mission.
Boldly Go. Sign and share to make Star Trek: Phase II a reality

It would be cool but it won't happen. Its a nice idea but it looks like paramount is moving forward with a star trek reboot. I will give you some hope. With a.i. I think some fan out there will one day make an episode of it that way. It would at least give us an idea what it could have been. But hey its a nice idea and thought. Welcome to the boards. Have fun. 🙂
 
Right! No more (deep breath) Dracula, Sherlock Holmes, Elizabeth Bennet, Henry Higgins, Sam Spade, Victor Frankenstein, Zorro, JAMES BOND, and, and, and, and, HAMLET!

There was a dracula TV show that went into 6 movies and guest appearances on succeeding shows all played by the same actors? ?? Who was the actor that originated it?? 🤔

They should not even have tried to recast. Especially Kirk, Spock and Mccoy. The actors did ok but they still packed in comparison. Sorry.
 
There have been literally thousands of hours of Star Trek produced since those Phase II scripts were developed. Why do you think they have never been used until now? It's not as though they were forgotten. They were well-known enough that two episodes of TNG used them. Why no others? My guess, without having seen them, is that they are not considered very good. That is 100% speculation on my part. But I feel like someone would have made use of them by now if they were decent scripts.

That being said, even supposing they were up to par, I don't think there is any chance of anyone making the actual Phase II series at this point. Too much has happened in the Trek universe since that was an idea. And honestly, at this point, haven't we done Kirk and Company enough? This isn't James Bond or Superman where the entire franchise is that one character and so you keep re-casting. This is an extremely expansive universe that has shown it can be massively successful (and also not so successful) doing new things.

If there is a new Trek production in the future -- which I hope there eventually will be! -- and they wanted to dust off these scripts, I think the best thing would be to rewrite them to match the new characters and the new setting, just as was done when they used a couple for TNG episodes. That would be, IMHO, the most practical way to make use of this old material. But actually making Phase II now? I don't think that would work.
 
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