News New Looney Tunes from Warner Brothers animation

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  1. Turtletrekker

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  2. Spot's Meow

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    Wow, Bugs Bunny is a real a-hole.
     
  3. Turtletrekker

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    Well, Elmer was chasing him with a scythe. But that brings up something interesting. Will we see Elmer Fudd hunting rabbits and ducks (depending on the season) with guns in these new Looney Tunes?
     
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  4. Christopher

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    Yeah, the scythe was rather odd.

    It didn't really work for me, since it was too one-sided. Bugs's violence, while generally excessive, is usually defensive and retaliatory. He just wants to mind his own business, but if he comes under threat, or if he sees an innocent being bullied, then he fights back relentlessly. Here, while Elmer is nominally chasing him, he doesn't really get to do anything before Bugs pre-emptively blows him up again, so the balance is off.
     
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    Wow. I'm very pleasantly surprised. I was expecting something like "The Looney Tunes Show" or those Reality TV parody shorts from fifteen years ago, which were horrible. But this is amazingly faithful to the original cartoons, it even looks like classic animation, as if it were done in the 40s.

    So, yeah, this particular one may feel one-sided, but it's only 90 seconds, without any dialogue, and it's titled "Dynamite Dance", maybe it even was a pilot to see if they could the animation look like the classic cartoons, so I'm okay with it. But I can't wait for the first six minute cartoon.

    Edit: According to Wikipedia (I know, I know), "Dynamite Dance" serves as a trailer. So, yeah, more about showing the style than doing an actual narrative.
     
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    They're going to have pull out all of the stops to convince me that they come even remotely close to the classic Looney Tunes...

    It may just be a test - but, it lacks a LOT of refinement when compared to the old cartoons.
     
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    I was finding the computer colouring wasn’t giving it that feel the the classic cartoons have.
     
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    On the surface, it looks promising, at least stylistically. The art is certainly too refined, but the rest of it looks fairly good. As long as they stay away from the overabundance of violence as shown in this trailer, then it could be promising.

    Of course, the big question is: Who are doing the voices?
     
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  9. Christopher

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    If it were just an exact, slavish recreation of what was done 70 years ago, there'd be no point in doing new ones. It should be modern, while staying true to what worked about the originals. After all, the originals' art style and humor style evolved from decade to decade, and the cartoons were always full of contemporary pop-culture references -- quotes of popular song melodies and lyrics, catchphrases, parodies of celebrities and popular movie and radio characters, that sort of thing.
     
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    I love that while Bugs is falling with Elmer he's wearing a parachute. But when he lands, it's with an umbrella.
     
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    I'm not going to judge this short too harshly, it's just promo-short and no context. And besides, I'm just overjoyed to see them doing what looks and feels like actual Looney Tunes stuff, and not that horrible stuff they've tried many times where they try to make the characters totally cool for NOW! Having them wear backwards clothes and strike hip hop stances and dress up like Pulp Fiction. Ugh.

    So yeah, looking forward to this. But also still waiting on more remastered original shorts please, WB.
     
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    I know tons of hunters who use a scythe to hunt rabbits..... No?
     
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    I think it looks great and respects the original animation style. The content and topic is another matter, but for the most part it feels like it's paying respect to the originals. At least they didn't update cartoons with a different more modern angular style.
     
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  14. Christopher

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    Again, what would be so wrong with updating? If there's nothing to it beyond nostalgia, then it's a totally superficial exercise that serves no purpose. If we want something exactly like the originals, that's what the originals are for.

    The ideal should be something that's as good as the originals, but it is a massive error to equate that with "exactly like the originals." Copying something is not the same as equalling it.
     
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    I liked it. Fit Bugs just fine in my opinion. He could be a little stinker no matter what.

    I didn't see it as that violent.

    Take Wile E. Coyote for example... he was around plenty of explosives.

     
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    But what made him work, once Chuck Jones found the key to his characterization, was that it wasn't arbitrary -- he went to town on those who deserved it, who attacked him first or proved themselves to be bullies.


    As punch lines to gags that were elaborately set up. They were paced out and given impact. That's not so much the case in this short.

    Many of Chuck Jones's characters were defined by their obsessive refusal to give up in the face of their own ineptitude. They constantly sabotaged themselves, or they aspired to roles they were monumentally unsuited for, yet they persisted relentlessly anyway, so we could laugh at their folly yet still admire their perseverance. Jones's Bugs was the exception, a rare comic hero whose appeal came from his successes rather than his failures, because they were successes against people who deserved it and were executed with wit and style. He was the one character whose personal ambitions were below his capabilities -- just to lead a peaceful, modest life and trouble no one -- but who rose to the occasion in the face of others' aggressive ambitions, like Elmer's attempts at hunting, Marvin's attempts to blow up the Earth, etc. That's what made him a good foil for Daffy, who was so completely his opposite.
     
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    Fair enough.

    Thing is, it's a short. One that's meant to show how things will be, not necessarily a full ep. That's how I viewed it.
     
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    But will these animated shorts be in continuity with the canon of the older cartoons? Inquiring minds want to know! :techman:

    But seriously, the thing that takes away the illusion for me most when watching later Looney Tunes cartoons is that the voice work always sounds a little off. I wonder how it will be this time.

    Kor
     
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  19. Owain Taggart

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    There's nothing technically wrong with updating, but I'm assuming that they'll want these new ones to fit right alongside the old ones during a run. To a kid watching these cartoons, they likely won't even notice it being more modern. I suspect that's part of the plan.
     
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    That is a good question. With higher awareness of gun violence in recent years, do such cartoons get much airplay at times when kids are watching?

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