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News New Harry Potter Series Announced

I'm not much of a Potter fan, but I'll check it out. It'll need to start strong for me to stick with it.
 
Well, I guess that means I'm going to have to pay for two streaming services. Maybe Max will even have a PS5 app.
 
This could be an utter disaster. The actors, music, and locations are all iconic. I know people lose their minds over the fact that Dumbledore yelled instead of whispered in Goblet of Fire, but good grief.

I won’t lie and say I enjoyed that moment in particular, but there’s loads missing from the plot of the films.

Ludo Bagman, Winky, how Barty Crouch Jnr escaped from prison, Harry giving his winnings to the twins and Dobby are all missing from Goblet in particular.
 
Well, I guess that means I'm going to have to pay for two streaming services. Maybe Max will even have a PS5 app.

It’ll be available to UK viewers with Sky TV I would imagine. That’s where all the big HBO shows appear when they’re on. So that saves me having to sign up to something new.
 
This could be an utter disaster. The actors, music, and locations are all iconic. I know people lose their minds over the fact that Dumbledore yelled instead of whispered in Goblet of Fire, but good grief.
This is something I wrote on Facebook yesterday.

Why make a Harry Potter television series? Why re-adapt the books? Besides WB wanting to make money with the IP, of course.

I doubt I’ll watch it — I don’t have the former HBO Max, and don’t plan on having it in the future — but there’s a way of doing a Harry Potter television series that would, I think, justify re-adapting the series.

Don’t center it on Harry, Hermione, Ron, and House Gryffindor.

There are lots of students at Hogwarts. There are other Houses — Ravenclaw, Hufflepuff, Slytherin, even Sparklypoo. Build the series around other characters, tell their stories, and let the events of the novels/movies be the backdrop. What do the Harry Potter years look like to students in Ravenclaw? What are their classes like? How do they interact with characters familiar and not?

I don’t pick Ravenclaw at random. If I were the one developing this series, I’d build it around Luna Lovegood, Ravenclaw, who is in the same class year (IIRC) as Harry and gang but doesn’t appear until the fifth book. The series could be framed with Evanna Lynch reprising her role as Luna from the films, telling the story of what her Hogwarts life was like to her absurdly named children. This gives the series maximum creative freedom to create and develop racially and gender diverse characters that don’t exist in the novels and tell new stories that create a larger, more nuanced understanding of the Wizarding World.

That’s what I would do. That has some creative merit.

A straightforward re-adaptation of the novels, twenty years after they were adapted as films, when those films remain popular and in wide circulation? Not so much.
 
This is something I wrote on Facebook yesterday.

Why make a Harry Potter television series? Why re-adapt the books? Besides WB wanting to make money with the IP, of course.

I doubt I’ll watch it — I don’t have the former HBO Max, and don’t plan on having it in the future — but there’s a way of doing a Harry Potter television series that would, I think, justify re-adapting the series.

Don’t center it on Harry, Hermione, Ron, and House Gryffindor.

There are lots of students at Hogwarts. There are other Houses — Ravenclaw, Hufflepuff, Slytherin, even Sparklypoo. Build the series around other characters, tell their stories, and let the events of the novels/movies be the backdrop. What do the Harry Potter years look like to students in Ravenclaw? What are their classes like? How do they interact with characters familiar and not?

I don’t pick Ravenclaw at random. If I were the one developing this series, I’d build it around Luna Lovegood, Ravenclaw, who is in the same class year (IIRC) as Harry and gang but doesn’t appear until the fifth book. The series could be framed with Evanna Lynch reprising her role as Luna from the films, telling the story of what her Hogwarts life was like to her absurdly named children. This gives the series maximum creative freedom to create and develop racially and gender diverse characters that don’t exist in the novels and tell new stories that create a larger, more nuanced understanding of the Wizarding World.

That’s what I would do. That has some creative merit.

A straightforward re-adaptation of the novels, twenty years after they were adapted as films, when those films remain popular and in wide circulation? Not so much.

Luna is the year below Harry and Ron. She’s in Ginnys year.
 
Unfortunately, they tried a different aspect of the Wizarding world with the Fantastic Beasts films... they weren't as successful as they liked.
 
Luna is the year below Harry and Ron. She’s in Ginnys year
I expect that more than a few of the 2.6 trillion* Harry Potter fanfics scattered about the Internet were focused on Ginny and Luna and their classmates.

*An exaggeration. Probably.
 
Don’t center it on Harry, Hermione, Ron, and House Gryffindor.

There are lots of students at Hogwarts. There are other Houses — Ravenclaw, Hufflepuff, Slytherin, even Sparklypoo. Build the series around other characters, tell their stories, and let the events of the novels/movies be the backdrop. What do the Harry Potter years look like to students in Ravenclaw? What are their classes like? How do they interact with characters familiar and not?


I'd agree with that. I think the wizarding world can be quite diverse thing to explore. The first Fantastic Beasts movie showed such promise, as there's a lot more to it than simply Hogwarts, and I don't think it should be limited to that. I don't see the problem making a Wizarding World TV show, that gives an overall view of the wizarding world including other schools. But the failure of the Fantastic Beasts movies means they likely feel more compelling to focus on Hogwarts, but that would narrow the the focus too much if it's little more than a retread.

The other thing too is that Rowling herself may not have that much left in her creatively speaking. I've read some of her other books, the non-HP ones, and honestly they weren't very good. But hey, gotta milk those teats! I just fear that if they do a 1-to-1 adaptation that they might end up shooting themselves in the foot. And when that fails, oh yeah, they'll blame the fans.
 
Well, the biggest concern there is the first book, because the first movie was a fairly faithful adaptation. As the later books got longer, they had to make more and more cuts. Book 4 was barely recognizable, given how much was removed.
 
This interests me not one little bit
Totally cool. There are many well-loved fandoms often mentioned here (Dr. Who, Battlestar Galactica) that I was never involved in. We enjoy what we enjoy.

The other thing too is that Rowling herself may not have that much left in her creatively speaking.

A secret about JKR... she does some things better than others, like every other writer. At world-building, she is extraordinary: she singlehandedly built a universe as compelling in its own way as Star Trek's. But as a storyteller, she has strengths and weaknesses. As an example... she's quite good at writing awkward attempts at romance between kids who really aren't compatible (Harry's first "real" date, for instance). But she doesn't seem to do well at successful romance: Harry and the person designated as his One True Love have only three scenes together with dialogue in the entire seven-book series.
 
I'm only going to watch it if I hear it's really good, like Last Of Us quality. If it weren't for Rowling's awfulness I'd probably check it out no matter what.

What I'm dreading is hearing all the antiwoke babies act obnoxiously self righteous about not being bothered by Rowling. If I do decide the word of mouth and reviews are good enough to hold my nose and watch it, I want the conversation to be about the show, not a self righteous pissing contest where you have to constantly both justify your decision to watch it to the decent human beings who do not approve of Rowling, while still pushing against all the bigoted garbage that shows up on the same side of the conversation.
 
A man with a set of jumper cables walks into a bar and orders a beer. The bartender looks at him and says: "All right, but don't start anything."

No one else here mentioned defending Rowling's convictions.

Maybe some of the lessons learned from the movies (shouty Dumbledore = bad) will be applied this time through.
 
A secret about JKR... she does some things better than others, like every other writer. At world-building, she is extraordinary: she singlehandedly built a universe as compelling in its own way as Star Trek's. But as a storyteller, she has strengths and weaknesses. As an example... she's quite good at writing awkward attempts at romance between kids who really aren't compatible (Harry's first "real" date, for instance). But she doesn't seem to do well at successful romance: Harry and the person designated as his One True Love have only three scenes together with dialogue in the entire seven-book series.


Oh yeah, if there's one thing, is that she hit on a compelling setting, one which I don't really think had been done before it, and had the students grow up with each succeeding book, which was quite novel.

But have you read her mystery novels? I don't consider them very good. They're dark and grisly, almost surely written for shock value and to show she could do it. The best parts of those books are the relationship between the detective and his secretaty. The actual mysteries are very tropey and don't really offer much in terms of originality.
 
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I tried one, wasn't really doing it for me. I didn't really take to the protagonist. Harry wasn't perfect (for instance, though he was treated like a slave while growing up, he seemed way too cool with slavery in Year 4), but he was likeable enough, and always surrounded by interesting characters. And, most notably, an interesting world.
 
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