Given the factional divide within the Empire at most times, that doesn't bother me.And now it's the only version we're seeing at all? Even in the Mirror Universe, on the High Council and every Klingon vessel encountered?
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And now it's the only version we're seeing at all? Even in the Mirror Universe, on the High Council and every Klingon vessel encountered?
Also, kind of odd that Kor is closely related to a member of this monstrous sub-species of Klingons. Maybe he's just a fan of plastic surgery-ing himself depending on which Klingons are in charge of the Empire now.
Please see my "He's adopted" post some where around here
there is historic precedence for that, so it is not far fetched
I'm not totally against them making fanboi ties, but the Kor name drop was there just for its own sake, which really made it feel cheap.
Cheap?
The Andorians are my favorite species!!!
looks a bit different but I think looks good
http://ew.com/tv/2018/01/14/star-trek-discovery-aliens/
He was probably an Augment Klingon during the TOS era, but yeah, I could see the internal bickering and warfare if the head of your house looks almost human while warriors and soldiers down the chain of command look like DSC Klingons. I'm still hoping the creators show us different kinds of Klingons during the run of the series and we also get to see Augment and TNG-style warriors with more traditional head ridges, but at this point I'm just hoping that they can give the current Klingons a better speaking style so they stop sounding like they have lockjaw or mouths full of novocaine.
To paraphrase Kor himself: "It would be GLORIOUS!"
If we have to use that silly ENT storyline and not just retcon it out ( as it damned well should be), I hope we get something that is closer to TNG and not something that looks like a humans with brown face.
I disagree. You are, however, free to your opinion.
Of course, But based off what we have seen so far, I don't think they are gonna use brown faced humans.
Nah. It's still better than "we do not speak of it with outsiders," because even a humorous, wink-at-the-camera explanation like that just invites more nerdrage and screaming to explain the differences. It's canon. It works. It doesn't need to be changed just because some fans think it's not cool nor logical enough an explanation.
I don't think they'd use TMP/TNG era Klingons either. Scratch that, I'm certain they wouldn't.
At this point I'd be happy if we got STID Klingons as the bridge between the Augment Klingons and the ones we see on DSC. As controversial as they were at the time the Klingons that fought Kirk's crew and Khan were infinitely better looking and more recognizably Klingon than this new makeup design. They also have their aesthetic downsides, but what Klingon look over the decades hasn't had its detractors and critics?
It's actually in itself a rebooted explanation of the traditional explanation before that, which were the fusions. Klingons supposedly, going by John M. Ford/FASA Klingons, created genetically engineered Klingons for relations with other powers and infiltration and so forth, so the bumpies did not have to get involved with aliens themselves. It feels weak, in my and many other peoples opinions. ENT took that, stripped away the hard-to-believe logic, kept the genetic alteration angle, and had it be the result of a virus which swept through and changed the face of at least a rather sizable portion of the empire. So the ENT explanation is a cooler, more logical version of the previous explanation.
Into Darkness Klingons are my favorite Klingons.
It was a joke. Trek had always used whatever the current version of whatever race as the way the race had always looked like. It was a joke that retconned 40 years of history and made everyone look really stupid.
I agree, they will not do that. The current Kligons looks pretty damned close, once you add hair. I do not see them using human looking Kligons or Ash would never have been a big deal, nor would they guys from TOs who did the same thing.
Yep. Agreed. And I liked the ENT explanation from the moment it was revealed in 2004. After twenty-five years we learned why TOS Klingons looked so different from all the warriors who came after them in the franchise and it wasn't just a handwave and some goofy reason that required everybody to hold their laughter. A viral mutation combined with genetic engineering to create more powerful warriors with greater skills in battle was an almost perfect explanation for why the smooth-headed Klingons seemed to dominate the Empire during the mid-23rd century.
It just seemed like something the Empire's scientists would do. Screw with their own DNA to make stronger and more efficient killing machines. And it backfired in a way that generations of their own species would have to suffer the consequences for the failures and hubris of their scientific minds and political leaders.
It just seemed like something the Empire's scientists would do. Screw with their own DNA to make stronger and more efficient killing machines. And it backfired in a way that generations of their own species would have to suffer the consequences for the failures and hubris of their scientific minds and political leaders.
Yep, it elevated visuals to canon and made absolutely no sense. It's nonsense that such a dramatic change in one of the Federation's most prominent contacts would be completely forgotten in a few generations.
How on earth would people like Bashir and O'Brien have never so much as seen an image of a Klingon from that era?
Well as Bashir put it. "I'm a doctor, Not a historian!"
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