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NERO was the most successful villian of all of the films

I would agree, Nero accomplished his goal of making Spock pay. Going to Earth was a madman venting his anger at association.
 
I'm a bit torn on Nero. I liked that he wasn't chewing through scenery like a termite on speed. On the other hand he was a bit lowkey. There needed a little more oomph.

I think they'll get it right on the next go-round. This movie had to focus on so many characters (and it couldn't be like the TNG films where large swaths of the movie don't include 90% of the cast) that I think they choose to focus the least on the one main character of this film they knew wouldn't be returning. The team that created XI knows, very well, how to pull of a good, subtle villain and if they can produce a Benjamin Linus for XII I'll be over the moon. A really solid Trek villain, one you don't have to make excuses for, that can be a modern day icon for future generations (like Darth Vader) is what I think Trek really needs.

While I never watched Alias, I've seen Abrams' Mission Impossible film as well as Lost. He loves calculating, thoughtful, chessmaster villains and he (with his creative team) writes them pretty well too.
 
I'm a bit torn on Nero. I liked that he wasn't chewing through scenery like a termite on speed. On the other hand he was a bit lowkey. There needed a little more oomph.

I think they'll get it right on the next go-round. This movie had to focus on so many characters (and it couldn't be like the TNG films where large swaths of the movie don't include 90% of the cast) that I think they choose to focus the least on the one main character of this film they knew wouldn't be returning. The team that created XI knows, very well, how to pull of a good, subtle villain and if they can produce a Benjamin Linus for XII I'll be over the moon. A really solid Trek villain, one you don't have to make excuses for, that can be a modern day icon for future generations (like Darth Vader) is what I think Trek really needs.

While I never watched Alias, I've seen Abrams' Mission Impossible film as well as Lost. He loves calculating, thoughtful, chessmaster villains and he (with his creative team) writes them pretty well too.

Unfortunately (and in MI 3 it was even worse than in Star Trek) he also loves stupid, incompetent and totally unprofessional main characters.
 
I think they'll get it right on the next go-round. This movie had to focus on so many characters (and it couldn't be like the TNG films where large swaths of the movie don't include 90% of the cast) that I think they choose to focus the least on the one main character of this film they knew wouldn't be returning. The team that created XI knows, very well, how to pull of a good, subtle villain and if they can produce a Benjamin Linus for XII I'll be over the moon. A really solid Trek villain, one you don't have to make excuses for, that can be a modern day icon for future generations (like Darth Vader) is what I think Trek really needs.

While I never watched Alias, I've seen Abrams' Mission Impossible film as well as Lost. He loves calculating, thoughtful, chessmaster villains and he (with his creative team) writes them pretty well too.

Unfortunately (and in MI 3 it was even worse than in Star Trek) he also loves stupid, incompetent and totally unprofessional main characters.


That is such a shame because Lost is all the proof anybody needs that a villain can be enigmatic (thoughtful, calculating chess master) and still be wildly popular. They can also be beautiful too (they needn't be hideous to get the point across they're evil.) My favorite example? (Don't worry M-Shrek it's hosted at photobucket)


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Juliet was the perfect villain (while she was a villain.) If they can pull off something of her caliber for XII... it'll be movie history as far as I'm concerned. Trek has the momentum and popularity now. All it needs to keep moving forward is a villain this generation can truly sink its teeth into.



-Withers-​
 
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