• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Nemesis Flop Made Tom Hardy Alcoholic Crack Addict

When agents take on clients, they always promise the Moon. Every client is a genius on the first call. God knows how badly the publishing industry in general is suffering in the current economy, but it's possible that your agent's expectations about markets that were reasonable a year ago have run into the brick wall of the recession.

Indeed. We reach.

Like I said, I have no ill will toward my agent--she really believed in me and my novel and worked her cute little caboose off with the pre-submission revisions. I'm just saying that pessimists tend to get it "right" more often than optimists.
 
You are one sick puppy...if that post is any indication of your true self...:lol:

I'd hate to think what MY posts over the years make you guys think of moi.


On second though...n-n-never mind. I...I never asked.:shifty: :lol:
 
This post has been eliminated as it is spam and was copied off of Amazon.com's review pages. This is unacceptable. Thank you. The management.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Well I thought it was bad and it hasn’t driven me to drink or smoking crack cocaine.:rommie:

I feel sorry for the man.

Have there been any reports of other cast crew members doing crack cocaine?
 
I agree with those who have made the very valid point that Nemesis was not the cause of Tom Hardy's problems with alcohol and crack. Its failure, and the result that had on his career, may not have helped, but there are many actors who have career problems who don't turn to substance abuse as a solution.

Regarding the notion that Hardy should have known that Nemesis was going to be a flop, I can't say I agree with that, though. Sure, I think anyone who read the script should have known that the movie had flaws. But, first off, the script was at least somewhat better than the finished product. At least the script had some -- *gasp* -- character moments which Stuart Baird so skillfully removed from the final cut. Second, this was a Star Trek movie and, at the time, there was no Star Trek movie -- not even Star Trek V -- that had failed to turn a profit at the box office.
 
It's petty and in very poor taste to use this man's tragedy as nothing more than fodder for more juvenile Nemesis-bashing. At most, the movie's poor performance at the box office was a trigger that set off something already latent in the man. And besides, since when was there any correlation between how good a movie is and how financially successful it is?

I really hope Mr. Hardy can overcome his addiction issues. I think he was very good in the role of Shinzon and he deserves to have a good career, rather than being reduced to a punch line by immature geeks on the Internet.

Agreed, and if it is true that he blames his current problems of addiction on a movie that he considers tanked..... I'm sorry, but that's a poor excuse.

You have nobody or nothing to blame for your own addictions other then yourself and the decisions you made in your life. Sure I imagine to some it's a tragic thing that he fell into addiction, but take responsibility for your own actions. If you don't accept your own role in creating such a situation of addiction, then don't expect to break out of it easily.

I've tried a number of things in my life over the years and no matter who I was dating, hanging out with, or whatever was going on through my life that might have made things stressful or perhaps pressured me into trying something, in the end, for me trying those things and if I ever became addicted to anything, I have nobody to blame other then myself.

In regards to the movie, I liked Nemesis a lot... second to First Contact imo and right up there with the new ST movie. His performance in my view was done very well and I never got why people feel they need to give it such a hard time.

To each their own I suppose.
 
Agreed, and if it is true that he blames his current problems of addiction on a movie that he considers tanked..... I'm sorry, but that's a poor excuse.

You have nobody or nothing to blame for your own addictions other then yourself and the decisions you made in your life. Sure I imagine to some it's a tragic thing that he fell into addiction, but take responsibility for your own actions. If you don't accept your own role in creating such a situation of addiction, then don't expect to break out of it easily.

I've tried a number of things in my life over the years and no matter who I was dating, hanging out with, or whatever was going on through my life that might have made things stressful or perhaps pressured me into trying something, in the end, for me trying those things and if I ever became addicted to anything, I have nobody to blame other then myself.

In regards to the movie, I liked Nemesis a lot... second to First Contact imo and right up there with the new ST movie. His performance in my view was done very well and I never got why people feel they need to give it such a hard time.

To each their own I suppose.

Verrrry arrogant statement. It's true that when you're addicted, nobody can help you unless you want to help yourself. But your statement about getting addicted being one's own fault only... better rethink it.
 
^ No need to rethink it. It's a correct statement. We all have outside influences pushing and pulling us. We all have various tendancies, weaknesses, and so forth. But, ultimately, we are the ones making choices for ourselves and we have to accept responsibility for those choices. If I decide to start smoking crack, that's my choice, regardless of whether I was in a relationship that went bad, a movie that flopped, or just thought it would be fun.

Sure, other things can influence and impact us. But we are ultimately responsible for ourselves.
 
^ No need to rethink it. It's a correct statement. We all have outside influences pushing and pulling us. We all have various tendancies, weaknesses, and so forth. But, ultimately, we are the ones making choices for ourselves and we have to accept responsibility for those choices. If I decide to start smoking crack, that's my choice, regardless of whether I was in a relationship that went bad, a movie that flopped, or just thought it would be fun.

Sure, other things can influence and impact us. But we are ultimately responsible for ourselves.

Quite so. You can't become addicted to crack until you've taken it of your own free will. Sure there are some vulverable people (mostly women) who are forced to try it but the majority of people choose to start.

That doesn't mean the rest of us should just sit back and point the finger but of all the drug addicts in the world actors and musicians get the least amount of sympathy from me. Like sportsmen we should test them regularly and ban them from working when they test positive - the huge sums of money that they spend on drugs as an industry feed into all sorts of other social ills and we should stop coddling them for their 'rock 'n' roll' lifestyle.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top