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Nemesis Flop Made Tom Hardy Alcoholic Crack Addict

cardinal biggles said:
^Maid in Manhattan starred Jennifer Lopez, not Julia Roberts. If it had been a Julia Roberts film, Nemesis wouldn't have even come as close as it did. Hell, I probably would have skipped it for the Julia Roberts film. ;)

Otherwise, everything you said is spot-on.
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Heh. Point taken. I need to start fact-checking and not relying on my prematurely senile memory.
 
I've got to be honest, I keep getting those two actresses mixed up anyway. They're sort of the same in my brain, which I'll assure fans of either is strictly because I'm completely ignorant of them and they've been in chick flick movies probably I assume would be the case (again, ignorant).
 
This entire thing is disturbing.

-the original article
-the discussion in this thread
-Maid in Manhattan
 
billcosby said:
This entire thing is disturbing.

-the original article
-the discussion in this thread
-Maid in Manhattan
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I dislike posting quickly in rapid sucession about something so off-topic, but that made me laugh very, very hard.

Bravo sir!

More on-topic: The Maid in Manhattan thing was important because, as I recall, it was the first time Star Trek had been beaten by another movie in its opening weekend... and yes, that's the same recollection that pegs it as a Julia Roberts movie, so it's probably complete nonsense as well.

Damn my head.
 
Kegg said:
I can't believe I left Nemesis feeling completely unmoved. They killed Data. I didn't know going in Data was going to die. He was a character I'd grown up with and had been a big selling point for me as a Trekkie
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This was my letdown with the directing from Stuart Baird. My friends who were Spock fans sobbed when Spock died in ST II and I was hoping for the same experience if I was losing Data.

At the very least, the movie needed that cut early scene between Data and Picard.
 
Hell, I've seen exactly one episode of Sex & the City and I know what it means to say one is a Carrie, a Charlotte, a Miranda* or a Samantha.

*But not a Soyuz--go figure.
 
cardinal biggles said:
^Maid in Manhattan starred Jennifer Lopez, not Julia Roberts. If it had been a Julia Roberts film, Nemesis wouldn't have even come as close as it did. Hell, I probably would have skipped it for the Julia Roberts film. ;)

Otherwise, everything you said is spot-on.
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If you can find records, I think you'll see NEM came in THIRD, behind MiM and another flick, some dance movie, possibly with J. Alba in it.
 
trevanian said:
cardinal biggles said:
^Maid in Manhattan starred Jennifer Lopez, not Julia Roberts. If it had been a Julia Roberts film, Nemesis wouldn't have even come as close as it did. Hell, I probably would have skipped it for the Julia Roberts film. ;)

Otherwise, everything you said is spot-on.
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If you can find records, I think you'll see NEM came in THIRD, behind MiM and another flick, some dance movie, possibly with J. Alba in it.
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Nemesis came in second the first week-end. I think the dance movie you´re referring to is Drumline starring Zoe Saldana. It didn´t do better than Nemesis the first week, but it did beat the film during the second week-end.
 
Aike beat me to it. Nemesis only missed being #1 by around $200K; Drumline was in third place by a difference of $6M.

Regarding the second weekend, it's more a matter of what didn't beat Nemesis. The way summer blockbusters are front-loaded into the first weekend, a big second weekend drop seems to be a bit more expected now, but I remember folks in 2002 being as surprised by the -76.1% dropoff as they were by it not making #1 on its opening weekend.
 
Brutal Strudel said:
Hell, I've seen exactly one episode of Sex & the City and I know what it means to say one is a Carrie, a Charlotte, a Miranda* or a Samantha.

*But not a Soyuz--go figure.
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Oh God. I've just realised how much useless knowledge I have stored in me as a Trek fan.
 
NEMESIS had few things going for it, but if nothing else the effects and ships were impressive and even awe-worthy. The newer design of Romulan warbird that sort of resembled a steroid-pumped Klingon BoP was sort of cool.
 
DS9Sega said:
Brutal Strudel said:
...and science is finding more and more that depressives tend be depressive because we see life (and ourselves) rather more clearly than those who possess a sunny demeanor.
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Which makes everyone else sound like Polyannas. My experience is that the depressives I've known don't see anything more clearly than others around them, they just tend to focus on the negatives and don't give the positives as much weight. I know that's not scientific, but it's what I've seen from my life experience.
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A young person of my acquaintance said to me several years ago that "every time you try to cheer me up, the things you say just depress the Hell out of me."

So, I repeated that - with some amusement - to my counselor and she said "Well, they should. The perspective of a middle-aged man, and the thoughts that reassure you and give you comfort are based on experiences that someone in their twenties hasn't had. A young person whose expectations were that constrained would be depressed."

That's as best I can reconstruct it from memory. In any event, I found what she said both amusing (again) and reassuring - I imagine that my young friend would have been discouraged at the notion of what awaits him, though. :lol:

When agents take on clients, they always promise the Moon. Every client is a genius on the first call. God knows how badly the publishing industry in general is suffering in the current economy, but it's possible that your agent's expectations about markets that were reasonable a year ago have run into the brick wall of the recession.
 
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