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NAzi Occult (Not A Joke Thread)

The Nazis were fascists, and anti-communist. Sure, the name of the party had "Socialist" in the title, but that was about as accurate as "Democratic People's Republic of North Korea" is today, and it lost much of its former identity when Hitler took over.

Hitler and the Nazis were in fact socialists.
No, they really weren't. They were fascists. Please learn to history.

I history just fine, thank you. Hitler was many things. But, in practice, his government used socialism as an economic system when it abolished labor unions and created only one labor union...the Nazi party itself.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/germany/hitlerconsolidaterev2.shtml

Abolishing the trade unions allowed Hitler to destroy a group that might have opposed him. It also gave Hitler the opportunity to set up the German Labour Front, which gave him control over German workers.
 
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Hitler and the Nazis were in fact socialists.
No, they really weren't. They were fascists. Please learn to history.

I history just fine, thank you. Hitler was many things. But, in practice, his government used socialism as an economic system when it abolished labor unions and created only one labor union...the Nazi party itself.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/germany/hitlerconsolidaterev2.shtml

Abolishing the trade unions allowed Hitler to destroy a group that might have opposed him. It also gave Hitler the opportunity to set up the German Labour Front, which gave him control over German workers.
You still seem to misunderstand what socialism is, and in particular what liberals are. Hitler and company were fascists. Here, let me help:

http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-nazism-and-vs-socialism/
What is the difference between Nazism and Socialism?
• Socialism is a social and economic theory whereas Nazism is a political ideology.
• Socialism talks about common ownership of assets and means of production to help achieve the goal of a classless society, whereas Nazism does not object to private property and believes in the superiority of the German race.
• Nazis believed themselves to be socialists of a different variety rather than socialists as envisaged by Karl Marx.
• Nazism advocates extreme nationalism whereas socialism does not talk about boundaries.
• Hitler did not like the fact that Karl Marx, the developer of Socialism, was of Jewish descent as he was in favor of extermination of all Jews.

Also, more help: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100261121/hitler-wasnt-a-socialist-stop-saying-he-was/
My colleague Dan Hannan argues that Hitler was a socialist. It's a popular idea among libertarians, often used to shame the opposition – after all the Nazis did call themselves National Socialists. But, then again, Tony Blair once said he was a socialist, too. So labels can be misleading.
That Hitler wasn't a socialist became apparent within weeks of becoming Chancellor of Germany when he started arresting socialists and communists. He did this, claim some, because they were competing brands of socialism. But that doesn't explain why Hitler defined his politics so absolutely as a war on Bolshevism – a pledge that won him the support of the middle-classes, industrialists and many foreign conservatives.
Dan asserts that Hitler was a socialist with reservations, that:
Marx’s error, Hitler believed, had been to foster class war instead of national unity – to set workers against industrialists instead of conscripting both groups into a corporatist order.
Yet, by this very definition, Hitler wasn't a socialist. Marxism is defined by class war, and socialism is accomplished with the total victory of the Proletariat over the ruling classes. By contrast, Hitler offered an alliance between labour and capital in the form of corporatism – with the express purpose of preventing class war. Marxists regarded this as one of the stages of capitalist development and few at the time legitimately interpreted the Third Reich to be a socialist society. The radical George Bernard Shaw, for example, certainly expressed sympathy for Hitler when he came to power but later described the dictator's socialism as fraudulent – as a way of buying off the inevitable revolution. He wore, in Shaw's opinion, "the latest mask of capitalism."
 
Hitler and the Nazis were in fact socialists.
No, they really weren't. They were fascists. Please learn to history.

I history just fine, thank you. Hitler was many things. But, in practice, his government used socialism as an economic model when it abolished labor unions and created only one labor union...the Nazi party itself.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/germany/hitlerconsolidaterev2.shtml

Abolishing the trade unions allowed Hitler to destroy a group that might have opposed him. It also gave Hitler the opportunity to set up the German Labour Front, which gave him control over German workers.
Is destroying labor unions something normally associated with Socialism? Union busting is usually associated with big business and capitalism. Replace the unions with one proNazi organization seems pretty totalitarian. The page you linked mentions Hitler being very anti communist and killing and imprisoning communists. It also says he killed off the SA/brownshirts to appease the army and business interests and to rid the Nazi Party of its socialist faction.
 
No, they really weren't. They were fascists. Please learn to history.

I history just fine, thank you. Hitler was many things. But, in practice, his government used socialism as an economic model when it abolished labor unions and created only one labor union...the Nazi party itself.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/germany/hitlerconsolidaterev2.shtml

Abolishing the trade unions allowed Hitler to destroy a group that might have opposed him. It also gave Hitler the opportunity to set up the German Labour Front, which gave him control over German workers.
Is destroying labor unions something normally associated with Socialism? Union busting is usually associated with big business and capitalism. Replace the unions with one proNazi organization seems pretty totalitarian. The page you linked mentions Hitler being very anti communist and killing and imprisoning communists. It also says he killed off the SA/brownshirts to appease the army and business interests and to rid the Nazi Party of its socialist faction.

The page I linked to was a BBC page.

Creating one Labor Union allowed the government to fix and control everything. It certainly wasn't a Capitalist policy to institute a single government-controlled labor union.

Yes. The Nazis killed Communists. However, Communism is not congruent to Socialism.
 
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I history just fine, thank you. Hitler was many things. But, in practice, his government used socialism as an economic model when it abolished labor unions and created only one labor union...the Nazi party itself.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/history/mwh/germany/hitlerconsolidaterev2.shtml
Is destroying labor unions something normally associated with Socialism? Union busting is usually associated with big business and capitalism. Replace the unions with one proNazi organization seems pretty totalitarian. The page you linked mentions Hitler being very anti communist and killing and imprisoning communists. It also says he killed off the SA/brownshirts to appease the army and business interests and to rid the Nazi Party of its socialist faction.

The page I linked to was a BBC page.
Yeah, I got that. Having looked at the page.

Creating one Labor Union allowed the government to fix and control everything. It certainly wasn't a Capitalist policy to institute a single government-controlled labor union
.Which is why I called it Totalitarian and not Capitalistic. Though I'm sure the Nazi's big business allies didn't mind having a tamed union.

Yes. The Nazis killed Communists. However, Communism is not congruent with Sociailism.
It's not a gateway drug to Communism? SHOCKING!
 
Hey guys, I would very much appreciate it if we could stick to the specific topic of how the Nazis were involved with researching the occult please. Thanks.

I'm sorry if I come across sounding like a long dark channel in the rear.
 
Hey guys, I would very much appreciate it if we could stick to the specific topic of how the Nazis were involved with researching the occult please. Thanks.

I'm sorry if I come across sounding like a long dark channel in the rear.

Hitler did some f'd up things. Creating Zombies was not one of them.
 
It's disgusting.

Inhuman, sinister and vile. Nothing but an exploration of pure evil

Oh wait, I thought this was the thread about the Eurovison song contest.....my mistake
 
It's disgusting.

Inhuman, sinister and vile. Nothing but an exploration of pure evil

Oh wait, I thought this was the thread about the Eurovison song contest.....my mistake

Isn't the Eurovision song contest like the Rocky IV of song competitions? :techman:
 
Hey guys, I would very much appreciate it if we could stick to the specific topic of how the Nazis were involved with researching the occult please. Thanks.

I'm sorry if I come across sounding like a long dark channel in the rear.

Open, free, board. Considering the OP/topic is about whether or not Nazis practiced necromancy and were high enough level to cast resurrect spells but had a high-chance of rolling 5 meaning the resurrected would be a zombie instead of the original person I think the topic is pretty darn thin. Really, they should have just taken 10 and hoped for the best.
 
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