NAzi Occult (Not A Joke Thread)

[Starborn Dragon]

This is a book by Osprey publications that I've recently purchase and have been reading it.

Well, I've recently got this book called Nazi Occult that I've been reading about. In short, it is about the Nazi's research into occult powers and rituals and the groups that studied the occult, such as the Thule society and the Black Sun. It is an osprey publication.

Now, Nazi zombie armies are a fairly popular theme in games and popular entertainment. And i'd always thought that they had been a creation for games and movie by Hollywood and the gaming companies.

So imagine my surprise when I read this passage from the book:

The Hügelgrabforschung (Burial Mound Research) group is better known by its nickname Die Todesbruderschaft: the Brotherhood of Death. Devotees of the Black Sun, the necromancers attached to this institute investigated barrows, kurgans, and burial mounds in occupied Norway and Ukraine. Their program to create an army of Nazi zombies never altered the war’s strategic balance: undead soldiers remained vulnerable to artillery and had none of the ability to react tactically required in modern warfare. Their tendency to experiment on the Waffen-SS’ own dead and dying also led to friction with supporting German units, as in the famous mass-trepanation incident near Nikolayev in 1944.

So as it turns out, the Nazis really and truly did do research into ways to raise the dead and have that kind of soldier. for real.

Whether they actually did raise the dead, well, I don't know for certain so I really can't say. There is the possibility that they simply used clock work technology to make the bodies move and look like they were real undead creatures to scare people, but that too, is simple speculation.

But this was a huge surprise to me, and something I had never really known until I just read this passage in the book.

 

[hux]

You know, the more I hear about these Nazi's, the less I like them

 

[Amaris]

This is a book by Osprey publications that I've recently purchase and have been reading it.

Well, I've recently got this book called Nazi Occult that I've been reading about. In short, it is about the Nazi's research into occult powers and rituals and the groups that studied the occult, such as the Thule society and the Black Sun. It is an osprey publication.

Now, Nazi zombie armies are a fairly popular theme in games and popular entertainment. And i'd always thought that they had been a creation for games and movie by Hollywood and the gaming companies.

So imagine my surprise when I read this passage from the book:

The Hügelgrabforschung (Burial Mound Research) group is better known by its nickname Die Todesbruderschaft: the Brotherhood of Death. Devotees of the Black Sun, the necromancers attached to this institute investigated barrows, kurgans, and burial mounds in occupied Norway and Ukraine. Their program to create an army of Nazi zombies never altered the war’s strategic balance: undead soldiers remained vulnerable to artillery and had none of the ability to react tactically required in modern warfare. Their tendency to experiment on the Waffen-SS’ own dead and dying also led to friction with supporting German units, as in the famous mass-trepanation incident near Nikolayev in 1944.

So as it turns out, the Nazis really and truly did do research into ways to raise the dead and have that kind of soldier. for real.

Whether they actually did raise the dead, well, I don't know for certain so I really can't say. There is the possibility that they simply used clock work technology to make the bodies move and look like they were real undead creatures to scare people, but that too, is simple speculation.

But this was a huge surprise to me, and something I had never really known until I just read this passage in the book.

They were into the occult.
They did not use clockwork technology to make bodies move.
They did not raise the dead.
They were bigoted, arrogant assholes who stomped whole civilizations into the mud based on their supposedly superior blood hierarchy.
They are worth study because it is important that we never make that mistake ever again. The human death toll was far, far too high.

 

[Squiggy]

Whether they actually did raise the dead, well, I don't know for certain so I really can't say.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC1HE7C5O9s[/yt]

 

[Melakon]

I read about Nazis when I was 17, but it was less than 25 years after WWII. By 18, I was reading Playboy.

 

[T'Girl]

You know, the more I hear about these Nazi's, the less I like them

Hard to believe, given the snazzy uniforms and all.

 

[Kor]

I've always thought Osprey published pretty good stuff on military history.

If this has a solid basis in research, then it really shows how delusional that regime really was.

Kor

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I've always thought Osprey published pretty good stuff on military history.

If this has a solid basis in research, then it really shows how delusional that regime really was.

Kor

You're right about Osprey, they make good books.

Doing a book on Nazi insanity is still good publishing. The Nazi's were definitely delusional.

Osprey has hundreds of books across their lines. I figure at some point they'll run out of topics.

 

[Mudd]

They were bigoted, arrogant assholes who stomped whole civilizations into the mud based on their supposedly superior blood hierarchy.

What, they were soccer hooligans?

 

[Shurik]

Both Dead Snow movies were great. Maybe they were based on true story after all.

On a more serious note - some among the Nazis (Himmler, for example) did believe all this nonsense. It's just another small detail in the very large picture of the absolute insanity of the Nazi regime.

 

[Lonemagpie]

It's part of their imprint expanding into fantasy and gaming- the same line includes the Zombie Hunter's Guide - so, no, it's not actually a serious one from them, it's part of the genre shared by Dead Snow and Wolfenstein. Good fun, though.

That said, Himmler really did indeed believe things as weird as in such movies and games. (He was the one obsessed with the occult, not Hitler)

 

[Kemaiku]

Someone's been playing too much Wolfenstein.

 

[StarCruiser]

It's part of their imprint expanding into fantasy and gaming- the same line includes the Zombie Hunter's Guide - so, no, it's not actually a serious one from them, it's part of the genre shared by Dead Snow and Wolfenstein. Good fun, though.

That said, Himmler really did indeed believe things as weird as in such movies and games. (He was the one obsessed with the occult, not Hitler)

Exactly - this is NOT real. Just a supporting piece for the gaming side of their business.

 

[Trekker4747]

Whether they actually did raise the dead, well, I don't know for certain so I really can't say.

Really, you can't? No clue whatsoever.

There is the possibility that they simply used clock work technology to make the bodies move and look like they were real undead creatures to scare people, but that too, is simple speculation..

Riiiiiiightttttttt.

 

[fonzob1]

I don't know about the zombie thing, but I do know that Nazis were a bunch of social and fiscal liberals. Dictatorial liberals = worse than zombies.

 

[fonzob1]

I don't know...

Stay in school. Don't do drugs.

Are you advising based on personal experience?

 

[Amaris]

I don't know about the zombie thing, but I do know that Nazis were a bunch of social and fiscal liberals. Dictatorial liberals = worse than zombies.

The Nazis were fascists, and anti-communist. Sure, the name of the party had "Socialist" in the title, but that was about as accurate as "Democratic People's Republic of North Korea" is today, and it lost much of its former identity when Hitler took over.

 

[fonzob1]

I don't know about the zombie thing, but I do know that Nazis were a bunch of social and fiscal liberals. Dictatorial liberals = worse than zombies.

The Nazis were fascists, and anti-communist. Sure, the name of the party had "Socialist" in the title, but that was about as accurate as "Democratic People's Republic of North Korea" is today, and it lost much of its former identity when Hitler took over.

Hitler and the Nazis were in fact socialists.

 

[Amaris]

I don't know about the zombie thing, but I do know that Nazis were a bunch of social and fiscal liberals. Dictatorial liberals = worse than zombies.

The Nazis were fascists, and anti-communist. Sure, the name of the party had "Socialist" in the title, but that was about as accurate as "Democratic People's Republic of North Korea" is today, and it lost much of its former identity when Hitler took over.

Hitler and the Nazis were in fact socialists.

No, they really weren't. They were fascists. Please learn to history.

 

[Push The Button]

"Nazis. I hate these guys."
-Indiana Jones