National Treasure: Book of Secrets - SPOILERS
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I could have done without the Goofy cartoon it was fuckin lame.
Yes, it was an updated subject done in classic Disney Goofy cartoon mode.
Very funny. And it got a lot of applause.
--Ted
Well, the Missus and I tend to believe that Page 47 is the set-up for NT3, especially since there were three distinct references to it, yet it was a loose end that was not neatly tied up. Either that, or it's going to be a special feature on the DVD.
I think the comment that intrigued me the most though, was when Ben commented that Agent Sadusky obviously knew more about the BoS than he first let on. And that does make one wonder: If the damn thing IS supposed to be so secret, then how is it that a mid-level FBI agent knows about its existence, and what's in it?
He's a Mason, remember. They know and control everything.
--Ted
Page 47? What is this...Alias? 
Thespeckledkiwi
Vice Admiral
It was good, but man...the plot was thinner and looser than the first. I don't know how all of this connected. I don't know if I missed something but how did we go from the Thomas Gates to the treasure? It seemed to be lacking a bit.
The plot was definitely a lot tighter in the first film. It was easier to follow the clues from A to B to C with the characters. And I'm surprised that the movie is titled "Book of Secrets". The only purpose the book serves is to see a picture of one of the clues that was previously destroyed. If anything, it's just a setup for the third movie.
I quite enjoyed this film (and the first one).
A film doesn't have to be plausible to be enjoyable.
A film doesn't have to be plausible to be enjoyable.
Thespeckledkiwi
Vice Admiral
The 1st movie was a lot tighter and the action scenes weren't as Bayish as this one.
It was decent but disappointing to the first one.
I mean I had some questions about how everything fit...
I liked the first movie and wanted to like this one but, I thought it was a weak rehash. I actually caught myself frowning a couple times during the movie because it all seemed just so predictable in both plotting and dialogue.
I've see it and will add my .02 to the discussion.
I give it a solid B grade.
I liked it and would recommend it to anyone who enjoyed the first or other similar movies(Indy,Mummy,Shara).
I did learn a few things.
Didn't know that there were 2 other "Lady Liberties".
Did not know there was a Resoultte(sp) desk in Buckingham Palace. All cool stuff IMO.
What I liked least about this installment was that the "puzzles" were not as fun or engaging as the first. I didn't feel like the action carried over into each subsequent moment as it did in NT:1.
The action from NT:1
Charlotte->Pipe->Constitution->Goggles->Constitution 2nd layer->Church->Treasure
This all moved in an intricate more exciting pattern than NT:2
Playfair Cyper from diary->Lady Liberty(Paris)->Buckingham Palace->Oval Office->Lib.Of Congress->Mt.Rushmore->City of Gold
IMO had the unfound chamber below Mt.Vernon played into the story apart from getting the President alone it would've been a bit better.
Near the end I was feeling sympathetic to Wilkinson. He wasn't as easily hated a bad guy as Sean Beans character in NT:1.
Still I did enjoy the film and will purchase it, a sign I did like it. I don't buy stuff I don't like.
Didn't need the Goofy updated cartoon.
The audience was respectable which made the movie better. Can't say the same for my 2nd viewing of I AM LEGEND.
I give it a solid B grade.
I liked it and would recommend it to anyone who enjoyed the first or other similar movies(Indy,Mummy,Shara).
I did learn a few things.
Didn't know that there were 2 other "Lady Liberties".
Did not know there was a Resoultte(sp) desk in Buckingham Palace. All cool stuff IMO.
What I liked least about this installment was that the "puzzles" were not as fun or engaging as the first. I didn't feel like the action carried over into each subsequent moment as it did in NT:1.
The action from NT:1
Charlotte->Pipe->Constitution->Goggles->Constitution 2nd layer->Church->Treasure
This all moved in an intricate more exciting pattern than NT:2
Playfair Cyper from diary->Lady Liberty(Paris)->Buckingham Palace->Oval Office->Lib.Of Congress->Mt.Rushmore->City of Gold
IMO had the unfound chamber below Mt.Vernon played into the story apart from getting the President alone it would've been a bit better.
Near the end I was feeling sympathetic to Wilkinson. He wasn't as easily hated a bad guy as Sean Beans character in NT:1.
Still I did enjoy the film and will purchase it, a sign I did like it. I don't buy stuff I don't like.
Didn't need the Goofy updated cartoon.
The audience was respectable which made the movie better. Can't say the same for my 2nd viewing of I AM LEGEND.
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Avilos
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I liked the movie. One thing I enjoy about these films is while there is some character continuity, the plot lines are unique to each film. Unlike the Pirates series where a few plot lines are stretched out and padded over many films.
I think they called it "Book of Secrets" to keep the actual treasure a surprise. Otherwise "The Lost City of Gold" is a much better title but there is no surprise.
The biggest problem I had was the location of the City. The whole "Mount Rushmore was a cover up!" explanation makes no sense! They did not build the actual mountain!!! The city was so well hidden underground the government did not need to hid it. The fact that the Lost City was under Mount Rushmore had no significance to the plot what so ever. Other than the filmmakers wanting to include another National Landmark in the film.
I think they called it "Book of Secrets" to keep the actual treasure a surprise. Otherwise "The Lost City of Gold" is a much better title but there is no surprise.
The biggest problem I had was the location of the City. The whole "Mount Rushmore was a cover up!" explanation makes no sense! They did not build the actual mountain!!! The city was so well hidden underground the government did not need to hid it. The fact that the Lost City was under Mount Rushmore had no significance to the plot what so ever. Other than the filmmakers wanting to include another National Landmark in the film.
I was under the impression that the carvings on the wood from the Resolutte(sp) desks gave away markers(beyond the eagle on the rocks) that indicated the City's location.
Therefore by building Mt.Rushmore they would by blasting and excavating erase the other physical markers that lead to the City's location.
I suppose that even if there were no other indicators but the eagle by making the area protected by the Government it would deter treasure hunters from trespassing.
Therefore by building Mt.Rushmore they would by blasting and excavating erase the other physical markers that lead to the City's location.
I suppose that even if there were no other indicators but the eagle by making the area protected by the Government it would deter treasure hunters from trespassing.
Building the mountain may draw more attention to the site, but people are looking at the presidents and not looking for treasure there. Also, any treasure hunters not fooled by the ruse will still have to contend with curious tourists.
I suppose I should give my opinion of the movie. I was entertained for a couple of hours, and the movie works very well on its own terms. I give it four stars, and it currently stands at #7 on my top 10 list for 2007.
I suppose I should give my opinion of the movie. I was entertained for a couple of hours, and the movie works very well on its own terms. I give it four stars, and it currently stands at #7 on my top 10 list for 2007.
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