NASA Captures Something Huge Escaping a Black Hole

[Dryson]

This article is a little old but it is still interesting to discuss.

http://www.ancient-code.com/nasa-has-captured-something-huge-escaping-a-supermassive-black-hole/

Two NASA telescopes managed to capture the moment a supermassive Black Hole’s corona launched out of the cosmic devourer. The corona associated with Mrk 335 ejected from the black hole travelling at about 20 per cent the speed of light.

So is it possible a black hole builds up mass and must shed some of its mass to continue growing?

I would rather think that life was emerging from the black hole.

 

[Silvercrest]

The ejection didn't come from within the black hole. The article specifies that the corona is around the black hole, That's where the flare came from.

 

[Paul Weaver]

If you were to split assunder an object at a close periapsis arround a black hole, you could reach a pretty high speed!

 

[Dryson]

The ejection didn't come from within the black hole. The article specifies that the corona is around the black hole, That's where the flare came from.

The process came from within the black hole which is part of the mechanics of relativity.

Paul Weaver - If you were to split assunder an object at a close periapsis arround a black hole, you could reach a pretty high speed!

Is there anyway to possibly recreate the same event on a smaller smaller scale to reach velocities that are faster than we currently travel at or send probes into space at?

 

[Paul Weaver]

The process came from within the black hole which is part of the mechanics of relativity.

Paul Weaver - If you were to split assunder an object at a close periapsis arround a black hole, you could reach a pretty high speed!

Is there anyway to possibly recreate the same event on a smaller smaller scale to reach velocities that are faster than we currently travel at or send probes into space at?

The Oberth effect (named after the class of ship the USS Grissom was, or the other way round) can do wonders. To get to stupid speeds you need to do something like bounce off a black hole, which has issues with spaghettification

However it's one of two strange things we use in real life to get probes around the solar system faster than you'd think (the other being Slingshot manoeuvres, where we steal energy from planets to increase speed). Basically if you accelerate at the bottom of a gravity well, you're more efficient that accelerating at the top. Which is really weird.

XKCD 1244 and 1356 apply to anything I say though.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

That's odd. I always thought that the Oberth effect was named for Hermann Oberth -- you know, the guy who first formulated it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberth_effect

 

[Robert Maxwell]

That's odd. I always thought that the Oberth effect was named for Hermann Oberth -- you know, the guy who first formulated it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberth_effect

humor, how does it work

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Humour failure on my part, I'm afraid. Sorry.

 

[publiusr]

Speaking of the Oberth effect here is a blurb on how it might be used to get a probe to the potential planet X
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=39382.msg1481735#msg1481735

The conclusion was that using an Oberth maneuver do to a burn at 4 solar radii, a stack of 20 tons of solids and 400kg of payload can do 20 AU/year. So that takes us to 25 years until flyby, not too bad.

Regarding feasibility, 4 solar radii is close and has not been demonstrated, but solar probe plus is planned to go to 8 solar radii. That means 17Au/year is achievable if a 15km/s of delta-v impulse is done at 8 solar radii.