Narnia 3 aka Voyage of the Dawn Treader - Grade,Review,Speculate

[bigdaddy]

I don't think there's any need to continue tracking the box office now lol. "The Magician's Nephew" is basically confirmed. They probably only doing another one because of the overseas intake though.

Basically confirmed and confirmed isn't anything close to the same.

Disney ditched the series because they made a deal with I think Sony and made no / little money from overseas because Sony got the money.

Either way I have only seen the first one, but they are better movies than Harry Potter.

Yeah I said it.

 

[Admiral Shran]

Damn, I like Narnia, but I wouldn't go that far.

 

[Captain Craig]

I don't think there's any need to continue tracking the box office now lol. "The Magician's Nephew" is basically confirmed. They probably only doing another one because of the overseas intake though.

Basically confirmed and confirmed isn't anything close to the same.

I agree. I'm waiting to read the announcement from Fox that it's official. Walden Media making the announcement is only 1/2 the battle.

I'm also still looking to see if it can match the WW total of Prince Caspian and cross $105m, even though both seem very remote.

 

[O'Dib]

Either way I have only seen the first one, but they are better movies than Harry Potter.

Yeah I said it.

I dunno if that's true, but it's definitely my opinion, as I never had any interest in reading Potter, and have only seen like, the 1st and 4th movies in the series. From what I gather they all have the same arch-villain, which sounds a bit boring.

 

[ColeMercury]

Either way I have only seen the first one, but they are better movies than Harry Potter.

Yeah I said it.

I dunno if that's true, but it's definitely my opinion, as I never had any interest in reading Potter, and have only seen like, the 1st and 4th movies in the series. From what I gather they all have the same arch-villain, which sounds a bit boring.

No, I have to agree -- the Narnia movies are better than the Potter movies. The Potter books, on the other hand, are better than the Narnia anything.

Yeah, they all have the same arch-villain, but the thing about Harry Potter is it's not a totally episodic series like Narnia is -- the books are all seriously interconnected and enmeshed, more explicitly as the series goes on but still to some degree from the start. Lord Voldemort is the arch-villain of the whole series but there's a reason for that.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Disney ditched the series because they made a deal with I think Sony and made no / little money from overseas because Sony got the money.

No, Disney distributed Prince Caspian worldwide. They didn't sell off the overseas rights to Sony or anyone else. You may be thinking of The Golden Compass, which bombed in North America but did well internationally, where New Line sold off the overseas rights prior to release.

Disney was actually willing to make a third Narnia film with Walden, but they wanted to bring the budget down further than Walden was willing to, so Walden chose to shop it to other studios instead.

 

[Admiral Shran]

Either way I have only seen the first one, but they are better movies than Harry Potter.

Yeah I said it.

I dunno if that's true, but it's definitely my opinion, as I never had any interest in reading Potter, and have only seen like, the 1st and 4th movies in the series. From what I gather they all have the same arch-villain, which sounds a bit boring.

Well, Voldemort is the main villian for the whole series, but he doesn't appear in every book/movie.

And it seems like they're trying to make the White Witch the same arch-villain in the Narnia movies. She's only in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe and The Magician's Nephew, yet has appeared in each movie thus far.

 

[Thestral]

Well, she kinda-sorta-not-really has a bit in Prince Caspian, and her appearance there was certainly reasonable in taking things further than the book did.

 

[Argus Skyhawk]

Dang it. They could film The Magician's Nephew any old time since it would not require any of the children from the previous films, but if they film it now and try to film The Silver Chair later, they will probably have to recast Eustace, thus making the films feel less connected to each other. For that reason I wish they were planning to film Silver Chair next.

Having said that, if they are indeed hoping to film all seven books, perhaps they want The Magician's Nephew filmed before The Last Battle, and they want Last Battle filmed right after Silver Chair so that actors playing Eustace and Jill won't age too much between those two films. Could that be why they want to film The Magician's Nephew next?

If so, since Magician's Nephew and Silver Chair would have few actors in common--just Liam Neeson and possibly Tilda Swinton--I wonder whether Walden Media could afford to film them at about the same time with one director working on one film and a different guy directing the other. That way they could keep the kid playing Eustace. Somehow, I don't think that's likely.

That could also help prevent too much time from passing in between the releases of those two films. That is part of what I believe hurt the opening weekend of Dawn Treader; enough time had past for people to forget the series and lose interest.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

There's no way they'll make two films concurrently given the shaky domestic box office. I think they would have made The Silver Chair next had the domestic box office for Dawn Treader been stronger and that they've switched to The Magician's Nephew as they likely feel that a) it can be made on a lower budget than The Silver Chair because of the level of FX needed for the two respective films, b) they probably think a prequel about how Narnia came to be and featuring Jadis as the villain has a stronger marketing hook than The Silver Chair, and c) they may be apprehensive that Bryan Singer's Jack the Giant Killer, which will beat the next Narnia film into theatres, would steal the thunder of The Silver Chair in terms of presenting audiences with major FX sequences featuring giants.

 

[Captain Craig]

Dang it. They could film The Magician's Nephew any old time since it would not require any of the children from the previous films, but if they film it now and try to film The Silver Chair later, they will probably have to recast Eustace, thus making the films feel less connected to each other. For that reason I wish they were planning to film Silver Chair next.

Having said that, if they are indeed hoping to film all seven books, perhaps they want The Magician's Nephew filmed before The Last Battle, and they want Last Battle filmed right after Silver Chair so that actors playing Eustace and Jill won't age too much between those two films. Could that be why they want to film The Magician's Nephew next?

If so, since Magician's Nephew and Silver Chair would have few actors in common--just Liam Neeson and possibly Tilda Swinton--I wonder whether Walden Media could afford to film them at about the same time with one director working on one film and a different guy directing the other. That way they could keep the kid playing Eustace. Somehow, I don't think that's likely.

That could also help prevent too much time from passing in between the releases of those two films. That is part of what I believe hurt the opening weekend of Dawn Treader; enough time had past for people to forget the series and lose interest.

Got to get A Horse and His Boy in there somewhere.

 

[bigdaddy]

Either way I have only seen the first one, but they are better movies than Harry Potter.

Yeah I said it.

I dunno if that's true, but it's definitely my opinion, as I never had any interest in reading Potter, and have only seen like, the 1st and 4th movies in the series. From what I gather they all have the same arch-villain, which sounds a bit boring.

I have only seen Narnia 1 and seen 2 or 3 of the HP movies. Harry Potter I find to be boring, numbingly boring, and I'm the only person I know who thinks that.

However I also feel that LotR movies are a waste of 12 hours, so most don't agree with me.

Disney ditched the series because they made a deal with I think Sony and made no / little money from overseas because Sony got the money.

No, Disney distributed Prince Caspian worldwide. They didn't sell off the overseas rights to Sony or anyone else. You may be thinking of The Golden Compass, which bombed in North America but did well internationally, where New Line sold off the overseas rights prior to release.

Disney was actually willing to make a third Narnia film with Walden, but they wanted to bring the budget down further than Walden was willing to, so Walden chose to shop it to other studios instead.

I swear it was Narnia they ditched over overseas issues, oh well. i have never seen Compass.

 

[Argus Skyhawk]

Got to get A Horse and His Boy in there somewhere.

They could do that one last, assuming they get that far. If the series lasts that long, the original actors who played the Pevensies as kids could then play them as adults.

Having said that--despite what I speculated in my previous post--I have a sneaking suspicion that the next film will be the last, or that the ones to follow will go straight to video.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

By the way, Dawn Treader ended up being the 27th highest grossing film of 2010 domestically and the 12th highest grossing film of the year worldwide.

 

[Owain Taggart]

Honestly, I doubt it would be very prudent to film The Last Battle. They can always fit in a cameo by everyone in the last one they film, but it doesn't have to be The Last Battle, as despite the donkey, there wasn't really much to the story. Besides, better to end on a high note.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

I doubt The Last Battle will ever be made as part of this film series. I think the odds are unfortunately against A Horse and His Boy being made, too. And I can't see any low budget direct-to-DVD movies being made, either. Walden is far too protective of this property to allow that to happen.

 

[timothy]

I think all of the books will be made and the last battle will be fantastic . out of the books the only one's I realy don't like are prince caspin and A horse and his boy.
other than that I love this series .

 

[Honorable Ensign]

The Horse and His Boy is my favorite book, but I too doubt it'll be filmed unless they make some major setting changes.

Hmm, I honestly thought Dawn Treader would be the last one. I'm glad to hear there'll be more, but I honestly hope they'll be better than Dawn Treader. Not that it was bad, but the elements they added to try to gel the story together lacked explanation and that really annoyed me and dragged down the entire film, I thought.

I suppose I'd like both Silver Chair and Magician's Nephew (There's a lot I like about Magician's Nephew, now that I think about it, especially Charn. And better that than try to shoehorn Swinton in as the Green Witch or something.)

I liked the Eustace actor too. At least Silver Chair takes place several years after Dawn Treader, right? Maybe he won't age too much in the meantime.

 

[timothy]

the horse and his boy is'nt a bad book perse it's just slow. we have four more books to do right?

 

[Admiral_Young]

Frankly we should be extremely lucky that we're even getting another movie right now. From the original article that I posted announcing "The Magician's Nephew" is in final talks, it would seem the only reason they're making another one is due to the strength of the overseas box office. Aside from "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe" the North American box office hasn't really been that great in the studios eyes. I'm guessing that if "The Magician's Nephew" isn't a success even overseas that we won't be getting the rest of the books adapted.